race OR nationality

[korenghen]

what do you associate more with your nationality or your race?? ex. if you are brazilian caucasian when askd do you say Brazilian or white?

[Faelcind]

Neither, I carry no specific allegience to caucasian or the United states. I believe to quote the USA constitution that all men are created equal with certain inalienable rights. I have certain sentimental attachment to my irish and scottish heritage but thats as far as it goes.

[Josh]

Hey Faelcind! Good to see you here again! How are you?

[Jack Reed]

I'm a human, first. I'm an American, second. I don't define myself in ethnic or racial terms as if I'm a member of a team. I don't think that way.

[osservatore]

If asked, I tell my nationality.

"Race" seems, after all, a non-completely-objective matter.

You see, in this very forum, long discussions on pics posted: what is this girl? Mestiza! no, bulgarian! no, italian! pred med.+alpine! no, atlantomed. + dinaric! orientalid! pontid! er..she looks lebanese to me!

Not to speak about the caucasoid-white question.
For what I've learned, I'm white in Italy, but possibly non-white in Australia (I've seen many pictures of persons that would be not only white, but average in Italy, being called as non-white caucasoid)

So, simply, I'm italian.

[zemelmete]

Nationality of course as I am chick from Europe.

In Europe nationality is more important than race because the biggest majority of europeans belong to one race, but belong to different nations because they speak in different languages, live in different countries, usually have quite homogenious ancestry etc. (as opposite to America where majority live in one country, speak in one language, but belong to different races and have multiple ancestry).

[eufrenio]

zemelmete said:

Nationality of course as I am chick from Europe.

In Europe nationality is more important than race because the biggest majority of europeans belong to one race, but belong to different nations because they speak in different languages, live in different countries, usually have quite homogenious ancestry etc. (as opposite to America where majority live in one country, speak in one language, but belong to different races and have multiple ancestry).

Nationality, and for the same reasons excelently outlined above by Zemelmete.

[yigal]

zemelmete said:

Nationality of course as I am chick from Europe.

In Europe nationality is more important than race because the biggest majority of europeans belong to one race, but belong to different nations because they speak in different languages, live in different countries, usually have quite homogenious ancestry etc. (as opposite to America where majority live in one country, speak in one language, but belong to different races and have multiple ancestry).

but u are the exception not the rule ie u belong to a mixed race minority in Europe

[zemelmete]

yigal said:

but u are the exception not the rule ie u belong to a mixed race minority in Europe

I'm not really exeption. My nationality still is more important than my race for the biggest part of europeans.

Yes, many notice that I look different. So they ask what is my ethnicity/nationality because it explains my appearance.

[aroundtheworld]

The US is so messed up that its not possible to have true Nationalism. I think South Americans tend to have a highest levels of Nationalism like Brazil, Mexico, Puerto Rico, etc to the point that the country is now thought of as "Race"

Puerto Rican chicks are way hotter than Cubans... Was it a white or black guy? Neither...he's a Brazilian dude.

That girl has a Mexican skin-tone.

[asdf]

The US is so messed up that its not possible to have true Nationalism. I think South Americans tend to have a highest levels of Nationalism like Brazil, Mexico, Puerto Rico, etc to the point that the country is now thought of as "Race"

Puerto Rican chicks are way hotter than Cubans... Was it a white or black guy? Neither...he's a Brazilian dude.

That girl has a Mexican skin-tone.

Mexico's majority white-fetish, minority white--and everyone notices the difference.

And nowhere in the country is there a consistent "Mexican skin-tone".

What exactly is your experience with the country?

[aroundtheworld]

seizure said:

The US is so messed up that its not possible to have true Nationalism. I think South Americans tend to have a highest levels of Nationalism like Brazil, Mexico, Puerto Rico, etc to the point that the country is now thought of as "Race"

Puerto Rican chicks are way hotter than Cubans... Was it a white or black guy? Neither...he's a Brazilian dude.

That girl has a Mexican skin-tone.

Mexico's majority white-fetish, minority white--and everyone notices the difference.

And nowhere in the country is there a consistent "Mexican skin-tone".

What exactly is your experience with the country?

I was quoting other comments I have heard.

"she looks Mexican b/c her skin is so olive and her hair is black". Some people think of "Nationalist" countries(even racial blended or diverse ones) as a "Race" and generalize the people. I think you misunderstood me.

I know what Mexicanos look like. I've visited Jalisco and Juarez. I have lots of Mexican friends of both Mestizo, Aztec, and even a Polynesian decendant mexican family whre all the family members are huge and look Samoan and all tower at 6'+-but they are from Central Mexico.

I am just saying that the general consensus in the USA is that there is a "type" or a "race" for Brazilian, Puerto Rican, and Mexican whereas the citizens of said countries tend to be proud of their lands.