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Post by Wadaad on Nov 24, 2005 17:00:32 GMT -5
I recall reading that Spanish Conquistadors returning back to Spain with their Amerindian wives was common. My question is, how common was it? Enough that a substantial but small population in mainland Spain itself is part amerindian, or is it much more?
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Post by Miguel Antunes on Nov 24, 2005 17:03:33 GMT -5
I have never heard of Amerindian Looking Spaniards...I guess it´s the same thing with all those black slaves Portugal absorved...that fact is barely noticeable... And since Amerindian traits are less dominant than Negroid ones...just look at all those Americans with Amerindian ancestors, it would be even less noticeable!
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Post by Wadaad on Nov 24, 2005 17:06:54 GMT -5
Indeed...perhaps genetic studies might make it easier, I always read about Moorish influences in Spain but not yet of any Amerindian.
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Post by asdf on Nov 24, 2005 17:19:35 GMT -5
Amerindian traits aren't necessarily recessive--in fact, they're not. It's just that every Indian north of Zentralid was much more in line with Caucasoid morphology than the Zentralids and S. American Indianids, that and Indian admixture is much exaggerrated here.
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Post by Educate Me on Nov 24, 2005 17:53:08 GMT -5
el inca garcilaso de la vega, was a mestizo who had noble inca blood, he went to spain, tried to become noble, failed, wrote many valuable books on history of the incas, became priest and fathered 1 illegitimate child.
who knows if he has descendants alive nowadays in spain
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Post by ndrthl on Nov 24, 2005 18:25:28 GMT -5
The descendants of Montezuma who have lived in Spain: Today the Aztec Imperial Family (aka Moctezuma Dynasty) is still alive and well. The 11th son of Montezuma II, Holca Huepautzin, was converted to Christianity as Pedro de Moctezuma. The Imperial Family settled in Spain where the Spanish government granted them their own titles of nobility for descendants of Emperor Montezuma II: Duque of Moctezuma and Grande de Espana and Marques de Moctezuma. Today the official Head of the Aztec Imperial Family is His Excellency Don Juan Jose Marcilla de Teruel Moctezuma y Jimenez, 5th Duque de Moctezuma & Grande de Espana since 1991. a long list of Montezuma descendants in Spain, all these have Aztec blood www.angelfire.com/ego/et_deo/azteckings.wps.htm
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Post by yigal on Nov 24, 2005 19:09:17 GMT -5
i saw a woman that looked veri Amerindian, even had braids, she had that pussy lisp and monotone intonation, she was spaniard, but i doubt its ancient mixture rather than the obious modern mixture from sudaca imigrants
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Post by anodyne on Nov 24, 2005 19:22:28 GMT -5
Most were too poor to come back. Many lost their wealth from gambling. Others were screwed over, such as the regular soldiers that fought with Cortes.
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Post by nymos on Nov 24, 2005 19:22:58 GMT -5
she had that pussy lisp and monotone intonation, pussy lisp? I almost read that wrong. Yigal, where's your habitual metathesis when you need it?
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Post by yigal on Nov 24, 2005 19:33:24 GMT -5
she had that pussy lisp and monotone intonation, pussy lisp? I almost read that wrong. Yigal, where's your habitual metathesis when you need it? Duck my Sick Fitch Base !
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Nov 24, 2005 20:28:04 GMT -5
Some of the beauty pageant contestants in Spain that I have seen in the past did resemble Mestizas but their parents are probably from Latin America since there are probably alot of Latin American immigrants in Spain.
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