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Post by gelaye on Nov 6, 2005 9:18:18 GMT -5
I brought this subject up ages ago, but I still believe that race and culture are realted...........
Mongoloids (as in ASIAN mongoloids not amerinds) - delicately built people = delicate culture, way of behaving etc
caucasians: lots of differences in how they look, indavidualistic= leads to expansionary, colonisation, very forward, culture is quite brash
negroids: strongly, robustly built, expressionate features= loud, musical culture, oral tradition, abstract art forms etc
this could tie down to geography etc.
but why do you think that african cultures developed the way they did? or why oriental cultures are the way they are? is it due to mind sets?
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Post by aroundtheworld on Nov 6, 2005 10:42:21 GMT -5
I brought this subject up ages ago, but I still believe that race and culture are realted........... Mongoloids (as in ASIAN mongoloids not amerinds) - delicately built people = delicate culture, way of behaving etc caucasians: lots of differences in how they look, indavidualistic= leads to expansionary, colonisation, very forward, culture is quite brash negroids: strongly, robustly built, expressionate features= loud, musical culture, oral tradition, abstract art forms etc this could tie down to geography etc. but why do you think that african cultures developed the way they did? or why oriental cultures are the way they are? is it due to mind sets? Polynesian are robust and large-built and have oral history. They are loud and many even have screaming and shouting matches during rituals. their music is loud and dance is free and sexual. They too have many abstract art forms down to what is known as "grafiti", tattoo, hair ornaments, and even "cornrows" face painting... I see many similarities between unmixed Polynesians and some African cultures but it goes ignored b/c of ...well you know.
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Post by gelaye on Nov 6, 2005 12:12:20 GMT -5
I brought this subject up ages ago, but I still believe that race and culture are realted........... Mongoloids (as in ASIAN mongoloids not amerinds) - delicately built people = delicate culture, way of behaving etc caucasians: lots of differences in how they look, indavidualistic= leads to expansionary, colonisation, very forward, culture is quite brash negroids: strongly, robustly built, expressionate features= loud, musical culture, oral tradition, abstract art forms etc this could tie down to geography etc. but why do you think that african cultures developed the way they did? or why oriental cultures are the way they are? is it due to mind sets? Polynesian are robust and large-built and have oral history. They are loud and many even have screaming and shouting matches during rituals. their music is loud and dance is free and sexual. They too have many abstract art forms down to what is known as "grafiti", tattoo, hair ornaments, and even "cornrows" face painting... I see many similarities between unmixed Polynesians and some African cultures but it goes ignored b/c of ...well you know. Yeah i've noticed that too - and even with some native north american indians (the more robustly built ones of the plains etc)
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Post by redbaron on Nov 6, 2005 14:25:53 GMT -5
Maybe geography and culture would be better examples.
Europe: plentiful rainfall = farmers not dependent on kings to maintain dams/canals = more individualistic.
MIddle East: arid climate = farmers dependent on kings to build and maintain dams/canals = communitarian.
Americas: lack of domesticable ruminants = insufficient amounts of protein in diets for large, sedentary populations = growth of stable civilizations stunted
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Post by zemelmete on Nov 8, 2005 4:03:43 GMT -5
Gelaye, culture and race do not correlate.
Let's compare eskimo and japanese which belong to one race - mongoloid. Do they share something similar in traditional culture? Absolutely nothing!
Can you imagine japanese riding in dog-sledges, living in igloo, wearing dresses made from seal skin etc.? And can you imagine eskimo eating rices, wearing kimono etc.?
The same goes to europeans. There is one european nation, which belong to caucasoid race, called komi. Many of them herd reindeers, live in teepees etc., what means that they share in way of life and culture little similarity with f.e. english, though they both belong to one race.
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Post by asdf on Nov 8, 2005 4:26:57 GMT -5
Gelaye, culture and race do not correlate. Let's compare eskimo and japanese which belong to one race - mongoloid. Do they share something similar in traditional culture? Absolutely nothing! Can you imagine japanese riding in dog-sledges, living in igloo, wearing dresses made from seal skin etc.? And can you imagine eskimo eating rices, wearing kimono etc.? The same goes to europeans. There is one european nation, which belong to caucasoid race, called komi. Many of them herd reindeers, live in teepees etc., what means that they share in way of life and culture little similarity with f.e. english, though they both belong to one race. You're making the assumption race can't limit culture, or at least the development of which sans outside contact, which is really the question. You would have to be some kind of stupid not be able to handle herding reindeers and riding in dog sleds.
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Post by Batrus on Nov 14, 2005 4:28:53 GMT -5
I don't really agree with that, gelaye. Of course there could be somethings that affects them like levels of testosterone producing agressive behaviour or if there are biological differences in intelligences they could limit or foster advances.
Anyway, i could provide a number of examples that do not favour your description like japanese samurais not being delicate at all, or early christians being utterly innocuos. But i guess you could say they are all exception and that i don't understand the purpose of generalization. Although, that just not the impression i have.
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