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Post by ndrthl on Oct 23, 2005 10:27:56 GMT -5
Does it make any sense?
"One cannot fail to see at the bottom of all these noble races the beast of prey, the splendid blond beast, prowling about avidly in search of spoil and victory; this hidden core needs to erupt from time to time, the animal has to get out again and go back to the wilderness: the Roman, Arabian, Germanic, Japanese nobility, the Homeric heroes, the Scandinavian Vikings -- they all shared this need." (Nietzsche)
"One may be quite justified in continuing to fear the blond beast at the core of all noble races and in being on one's guard against it." (Nietzsche)
"The deep and icy mistrust the German still arouses today whenever he gets into a position of power is an echo of that inextinguishable horror with which Europe observed for centuries that raging of the blond Germanic beast (although between the old Germanic tribes and us Germans there exists hardly a conceptual relationship, let alone one of blood)." (Nietzsche)
"I used the word 'state': it is obvious who is meant by this -- some pack of blond beasts of prey, a conqueror and master race which, organized for war and with the ability to organize, unhesitatingly lays its terrible claws upon a populace perhaps tremendously superior in numbers but still formless and nomad. That is after all how the 'state' began on earth: I think that sentimentalism which would have it begin with a 'contract' has been disposed of." (Nietzsche)
My personal opinion is that it was a methaphor more than anything else... but too many people dont seem to have taken it so.
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Post by Nist on Oct 23, 2005 14:50:15 GMT -5
Nietzsche contradicted himself constantly. So don't read too much into it.
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Post by Drooperdoo on Oct 23, 2005 16:02:18 GMT -5
Nrdthl, According to Nietzsche scholars, Nietzsche's reference to "the blond beast" was a poetic description of a lion. It had nothing to do with rampant Aryanism, or later Nazism. Nietzsche's sister was a racist, who twisted her dead brother's writings, and was actually caught literally changing his notes to make it appear that he shared her views. He didn't. His best friend was a Jew. Nietzsche actively ridiculed bigots and is on record as saying that infusions of foreign blood were good for imbred Europeans. He praised the exotic, and he liked renouncing his Prussian heritage--to the extent that he [falsely] claimed he was of Polish extraction. He even wrote, "Isn't it strange that the two greatest prose-stylists in German are non-German--me and [Jewish] Henrich Heine?" These are not the words of an Aryanist or anti-semite.
P.S.--Nietzsche was blond into adulthood. Like fellow poet Rainer Maria Rilke. Many Germans were . . . but, once again, it's doubtful that he was referring to Germanic blondness in his reference to "the blond beast".
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Post by Crimson Guard on Oct 27, 2005 19:51:25 GMT -5
Nietzsche often attacked Germans and German Nationalism..very complex man,amd went insane later in life,as he also had that problem with Wagner and his wife. Like Droop mentioned he was referring to the color of the lion's mane.
Nietzsche, like Goethe, held no high opinion of the German people.Nietzche proclaimed that the most noblest Race where the Romans.
Whats also intertesting I read up on some of the most prized Germans that where later to patronized by Nazi Germany(later on by White Nationalist -Nordicist),people like Wagner and Goethe held Italians and even more surprising Sicilians with such high regard...so they these people are the exact opposite of the Nordicist or even Pan-germanic thought that gripped Germany in the early 20th century..
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Post by murphee on Oct 27, 2005 20:05:33 GMT -5
The Blond Beast prowls around, hoping especially for scraps of melon, cheese and potatoes. It is my large yellow Akita mutt.
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Post by CooCooCachoo on Oct 27, 2005 23:28:48 GMT -5
The Blond Beast prowls around, hoping especially for scraps of melon, cheese and potatoes. It is my large yellow Akita mutt. ...Is it vegetarian?
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Post by murphee on Oct 27, 2005 23:44:26 GMT -5
No, but she loves vegetarian table scraps. Kibble, her staple, is lamb and rice. She does a dance, just like my other dog did, if an apple, carrot or a mango is being cut.
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Post by MC anunnaki on Oct 28, 2005 3:36:31 GMT -5
I think murphee is our blonde beast. Just look at that yellow mane!
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Post by Hairless on Oct 28, 2005 6:51:40 GMT -5
I think murphee is our blonde beast. Just look at that yellow mane! ;D I thought the same. btw Murphee, feed me some mango, too!
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Post by Drooperdoo on Oct 28, 2005 8:31:06 GMT -5
lol
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Post by murphee on Oct 28, 2005 12:02:32 GMT -5
Yep, I'm a blonde beast too.
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