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Post by Pepe friend of obelix on Oct 26, 2005 11:41:14 GMT -5
America is not doomed.Not because of immigrants.Nock are you not Italian? Because of immigrants, and of the increasing force of the racial identification myth and the counter mith of state identification, hence loosing the values that made it the USA. However there was some theatre about my saying saying doomed, as nobody really can predict the future. I'm Italian. Not that this means anything. sure it does.they said the samething about your people.italians did change america.sure it looked bad in the early days of they comming over but it worked out. There is no History everythings been done before,we just never learn.
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Post by anodyne on Oct 26, 2005 11:45:45 GMT -5
"No you cant stop illegal immigration by law.We have laws now but they do not work.."
Laws work if they're enforced. In the case of laws against illegal immigrants they're enforced half- ass (even that is giving the INS too much credit)
Everyone jay walks because cops don't care, for example.
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Post by nockwasright on Oct 26, 2005 11:59:52 GMT -5
Mexicans inferior? Lower iq? Parts of Italy are just as worse as Mexico and what about the Italian goverment today? past 50 years how many goverments has italy had?what about the italian immigrants who came to America? who brought over the Mafia? I hope that stings what i said about Italy, obvouisly i dont mean it but using your own words on your "own" people should make you know what you say in my opinion is down right crazy. It doesn't sting because I don't give a copulating act about Italy or any other country only reading this thread this should have been pretty clear for you. What has Italy to do with that? Mexicans have a lower IQ and lower level of civilisation (literacy, obedience to the law, equality of men and women, whatever you can think about) than USA citizens here and now. These are facts. I'm not saying they are inferior beings and that it will always be that way. Who knows, who cares. They are inferior now and the proof is Mexico is what it is and they themselves prefer the USA, that's why they migrate. Life is now. They migrate and they make USA a little bit more like Mexico. Do you think it takes nothing to create a civilisation? Civilisation are about persons and persons are about their cultural capital, mainly their families. Former immigrants for less developed countries, as Italy among others, needed many generations to catch up. At the time however totally unskilled labour was much more useful for that kind of economy. It's not the same now. They were less and arrived in longer span of time. They were forced to integrate and adopt the values of the Americans. And given this all, I still have to see proof such migrations have been an advantage for the USA Many areas of Italy, particolarly the deep south where my family and I come from, are probably underdeveloped around Southern American level. As a matter of fact, emigration from those places to other and more developed areas of Italy made such areas worse. I'm sorry if I offended you but there's no reason to be offended and btw these are facts visible to anyone. There is really nothing crazy about what I say. It's plain common sense.
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Post by Pepe friend of obelix on Oct 26, 2005 12:06:20 GMT -5
"No you cant stop illegal immigration by law.We have laws now but they do not work.." Laws work if they're enforced. In the case of laws against illegal immigrants they're enforced half- ass (even that is giving the INS too much credit) Everyone jay walks because cops don't care, for example. Good point.Americans need to put more pressure on Fox and his cronies. But in the end no one gives a shit.They will still vacation in Mexico (which millions of americans do) They will always blame immigrants for this and that yet never vote politicians will never have the backbone to blame the people with money who hire these illegals I find it disgusting and immoral when these bloggers talk about mexicans blacks and bla bla yet never admit racism does exist.Also America is at war how many of those bloggers have served or have done anything which makes them use elbow grease to better there country community?do you think these people volunteer there time to actually do something rather than TALK? usually the people with the biggest mouths (sean hannity ectect) never even served there country.but ohh yes they love america. The faces who America owns it debts to: www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/index.htmlIRAQ: U.S. DEATHS BY ETHNICITY Black or African American:10.42% Hispanic or Latino:10.93% icasualties.org/oif/ETHNICITY.aspxdont even get me started on How our American soldiers and there familes are getting the shafted from every which way even when they come hom
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Post by Pepe friend of obelix on Oct 26, 2005 12:15:59 GMT -5
Mexicans inferior? Lower iq? Parts of Italy are just as worse as Mexico and what about the Italian goverment today? past 50 years how many goverments has italy had?what about the italian immigrants who came to America? who brought over the Mafia? I hope that stings what i said about Italy, obvouisly i dont mean it but using your own words on your "own" people should make you know what you say in my opinion is down right crazy. It doesn't sting because I don't give a copulating act about Italy or any other country only reading this thread this should have been pretty clear for you. What has Italy to do with that? Mexicans have a lower IQ and lower level of civilisation (literacy, obedience to the law, equality of men and women, whatever you can think about) than USA citizens here and now. These are facts. So were the italians. and the same can be said about southern italians immigrating to northern italy today. You didnt offend me i just think what you said is incredibly insenstive and just not right. its like when you go to a party and someone says somthing that might have some grain of truth but then someone says "who brought the asshole"
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Post by nockwasright on Oct 26, 2005 12:31:19 GMT -5
So were the italians. and the same can be said about southern italians immigrating to northern italy today. Ain't that what I said? Ok, so why do you think it is not right? What exactly is wrong in what I said? As for the party example I don't really got it.
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Post by Pepe friend of obelix on Oct 26, 2005 12:40:38 GMT -5
So were the italians. and the same can be said about southern italians immigrating to northern italy today. Ain't that what I said? Ok, so why do you think it is not right? What exactly is wrong in what I said? As for the party example I don't really got it. Yea i know thats what you said [im pushing your buttons,dont you get it its annoying when people say that stuff.] its not right because it nothing.its just an asshole thing to say.
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Post by nockwasright on Oct 26, 2005 12:54:29 GMT -5
In other words under your dadaist English there is no meaning at all.
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Post by Pepe friend of obelix on Oct 26, 2005 13:11:02 GMT -5
In other words under your dadaist English there is no meaning at all. No your words have no meaning at all other than being an asshole
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Post by wkrp on Oct 26, 2005 13:27:18 GMT -5
This 'interesting debate' isn't so interesting anymore... Shouldn't brainless kids like understanding be restricted to their own forum?
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Post by Pepe friend of obelix on Oct 26, 2005 13:30:35 GMT -5
This 'interesting debate' isn't so interesting anymore... Shouldn't brainless kids like understanding be restricted to their own forum? they should restrict overwieght people.
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Post by nockwasright on Oct 27, 2005 3:46:51 GMT -5
No your words have no meaning at all other than being an assholeWow, you even edited to achieve that precious phrase above. I wonder how must it feel to be so thick. How does the world appear to you? Tell us, this is an anthropology forum. Changing subject, are you trying to create a new language or are you just verbally impaired?
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Post by Pepe friend of obelix on Oct 27, 2005 10:50:57 GMT -5
No your words have no meaning at all other than being an assholeWow, you even edited to achieve that precious phrase above. I wonder how must it feel to be so thick. How does the world appear to you? Tell us, this is an anthropology forum. Changing subject, are you trying to create a new language or are you just verbally impaired? I edited because i can. I am not thick but statistically you are [im sure you read the link]. The world is a beautiful place but assholes like you make it tough. I am not verbally impaired.I am doing just fine.
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Post by nockwasright on Oct 27, 2005 11:08:28 GMT -5
I am not thick but statistically you are [im sure you read the link]. I did, the link was moderately funny. No one can be "statistically" anything, do you realise it? Try harder. Ok world is beautiful and you are doing fine. I don't want to spoil your happy life at the western border of the bell curve so this is my farewell. "Interesting debate" sounds quite ironic now.
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Post by Pepe friend of obelix on Oct 27, 2005 11:20:40 GMT -5
I am not thick but statistically you are [im sure you read the link]. I did, the link was moderately funny. No one can be "statistically" anything, do you realise it? Try harder. Ok world is beautiful and you are doing fine. I don't want to spoil your happy life at the western border of the bell curve so this is my farewell. "Interesting debate" sounds quite ironic now. It is ironic because you cant admit you sound like an asshole. It rolls off easy off your tongue to say blacks have low iq's mexicans have low iq's but you choke when i talk about your people. And oh if Steve from iSteve can write about corruption, iq and wealth of nations and come to the conclusion that South Americans really offer nothing the same can be said about you since you come from a part of the world which has a corrupted goverment low iq.So yes i can say statistically you are thick.
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