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Post by lurker4now on Jun 12, 2005 15:38:56 GMT -5
Can you guys tell me why Gypsies are hated? they are hated just like jews are hated because they are differnt from the country they are in and they wont assimilate
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Post by lurker4now on Jun 12, 2005 15:42:06 GMT -5
btw i am a christian/catholic.
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Post by k5125 on Jun 12, 2005 15:43:34 GMT -5
but also because Jews look different many times. Interestingly, in actual European medieval drawings, it seems they generally didn't always use the hyper-exaggerated stereotype Jew, but more realistic physical types. Compare those with the Arab newspapers... Yes. I was more talking about modern times.
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Post by lurker4now on Jun 12, 2005 15:47:58 GMT -5
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Post by Educate Me on Jun 12, 2005 15:52:51 GMT -5
Gypsies are disliked for their culture, supposedly because of the way they are raised they are considered with no morals, like that for them being thieves, lying or kidnapping and selling kids is a fine way of living, my mother once when she was young had a bad experience with gypsies, she was alone walking by the road and a car with gypsies appeared, a woman invited my mother to enter the car telling her that she just wanted to read her hands, but my mother started running in the opposite direction to the woods.
A stereotype of a gypsy scene would gypsy working on the street playing with cards or some kind of game, who defies people who walk by the street to play against him for money, and the gypsi winning always (cheating) , and also stealling this guy´s wallet while the guy plays.
Of course it is a stereotype and I guess there are many good honest gypsies, I dont know them much, the last time I saw a gypsy was in mcdonalds 2 years ago, there are not many in Argentina, that is just what is always said of them, people with little kids when they see gypsies in the street always say to the kids, hold my hand.
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Post by Educate Me on Jun 12, 2005 15:56:39 GMT -5
the book of revelations isnt very direct, and I agree a fundies usually support Israel.
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Post by kir on Jun 12, 2005 15:57:53 GMT -5
Geez though, everybody hates Jews around the world. Seriously, its crazy. Not everyone. Those who have adopted “Semitic” religion, tend to form strong opinions about Jews, while others make it less of an obsession. Ever noticed?
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Post by k5125 on Jun 12, 2005 16:00:15 GMT -5
Geez though, everybody hates Jews around the world. Seriously, its crazy. Not everyone. Those who have adopted “Semitic” religion, tend to form strong opinions about Jews, while others make it less of an obsession. Ever noticed? What do you mean "adopted Semitic religion"? Actually, I don't understand any of your statment. What are you saying?
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Post by Educate Me on Jun 12, 2005 16:01:45 GMT -5
muslims and christians have strong opinions on jews, other dont.
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Post by k5125 on Jun 12, 2005 16:04:54 GMT -5
Eh? Stalin certainly didn't like jews and he wasn't muslim or christian.
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Post by Educate Me on Jun 12, 2005 16:07:05 GMT -5
What I wrote is what I understood kir tried to say, not my opinion.
Wasnt Stalin seminarist in the orthodox church for a while?
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Post by Melnorme on Jun 12, 2005 16:08:07 GMT -5
there where many jusitications for "hating" the jews and all of them came from religous leaders. Don't you realize this is a bigoted thing to say? You're telling me there was no secular European nobility who encouraged/participated in anti-Jewish acts for their own, non-religious reasons? No competitions with the rising Christian mercantile class over economic power? Read a book!
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Post by Melnorme on Jun 12, 2005 16:09:07 GMT -5
Eh? Stalin certainly didn't like jews and he wasn't muslim or christian. K5, expand your horizons. What he means is that people from the 'religiously non-Semitic' world - Hindus, Confucians, Shinto, etc - don't hate Jews.
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Post by k5125 on Jun 12, 2005 16:09:36 GMT -5
What I wrote is what I understood kir tried to say, not my opinion. Wasnt Stalin seminarist in the orthodox church for a while? Not sure. I just think of him as pure commie.
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Post by k5125 on Jun 12, 2005 16:11:00 GMT -5
Eh? Stalin certainly didn't like jews and he wasn't muslim or christian. K5, expand your horizons. What he means is that people from the religously 'non-Semitic' world - Hindus, Confucians, Shinto, etc - don't hate Jews. Oh
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