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Post by alexandrian on May 27, 2005 17:59:00 GMT -5
Seriously, check your ego, Alexandrian. All the stuff you put out is water. Doesn't amount to much compared to this: www.villarevak.org/cathay/invention.html"Limited" compared to the great Egypt. Deluded. Wow. A ten-based number system? The concept of zero? Beer? All these originated in the Middle East. Here's a similar website about Egyptian history, though we don't need to number our accomplishments to feel any sense of pride. There's a reason why IBM designs and supports a website on ancient Egypt and not one on ancient China. Ancient china is one of the world's most impressive civilizations but it simply is not as old as and hasn't contributed as much to modern Western civilization as the civilizations of the Middle East, Egypt included. www.eternalegypt.org
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Post by Circe on May 27, 2005 18:12:09 GMT -5
No, Chinese invented that too. I'm serious. Some pics/links would be nice ;D
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Post by nockwasright on May 27, 2005 18:15:48 GMT -5
You're over-rating Egypt. Remember the 7 page list of Chinese chest-pounding I laid? This has nothing to do with national pride. I tell it like it is. Can't stand inflated egos of whatever derivation. No, the Chinese did. No, meritocracy through the exam system was the imperial system of China. In the ancient world, that was the prime example of bureaucracy and meritocracy. Navel and center to who? No, Buddhists invented that, if you can call that an accomplishment. All of a sudden, civilisations are comparable! ;D
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Post by alexandrian on May 27, 2005 18:16:59 GMT -5
I'm not inflating China and I know enough about Western civilization to know that Egypt ain't the greatest thing that ever happened to man. You are confusing fame with achievements, and then you bring Greeks and Arabs/Middle Easterners in. We are talking about AE. A lot of the things you bring up other civs had too and others also had the same level of achievement if not more. Not to mention you keep making stuff up, the decimal system ex. Click my link. You posted that link before. It has nothing. And that's why I say Egypt ain't all that. Hernete may be impressed it. I ain't him. I don't hate Egypt. I like Egypt but it doesn't mean I think it's all that. Deal with it. So, now Chinese stole it from the Middle East? Wait, I thought we were talking about AE. Okay. You're an idiot. Egypt was part of the overal Middle Eastern and Mediterranean group of ancient civilizations. In fact it was an integral part of that region and group from ancient times through Greco-Roman times and into modern day times. Yet you seem averse to comperehending that. Why? Together the civs of the Eastern Med and Middle East , Egypt being among them, formed Western civilization in Greece, the basis of today's most superior civlization and way of life. China was not part of the formation of this system. If you actually clicked the link and browsed through you'd see that the Mathemtics section shows the Egyptians had a ten-based numerical system dating back to a plate from 1660 BC. Beer originated in Sumer and Egypt and the Egyptians brewed 11 different types of beer. Egypt was at the heart of the Hellenic world, why can't it be a part of Hellenic accomplishments? Egypt was at the hear of the Islamic world, and many scholars and historians of the Islamic time were Egyptian in origin and studied in Egypt. Egypt was always an integral part of the Middle East, aside from being the largest civilization in that region, it interacted greatly with those civilizations, they all owe something to each other. Why can you not understand such a simple concept as immense cultural diffusion? I never brought something up that was completely foreign to Egypt, it had as much to do with the ancient Middle East as any other civilization in the region, in fact more, considering Assyrians and Hitties were primarily militarily. I'm not gonna argue with you anymore because you are stupid enough to buy theories of a black ancient Egypt and dumb enough to think Egypt had nothing to do with the formation of Western civilization, stupid enough to think that Egypt was not part of the ancient Middle East, and stupid enough to think that China played a role in the formation of western civlization and the greco-Roman heritage. You're just sad.
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Post by alexandrian on May 27, 2005 18:24:30 GMT -5
No. Sorry. That isn't true. Even if it were, for you to represent Egypt and take credit for Greece and the Middle East. There is no logic there. How the hell is not true??!! Where do I take credit for Greece or the Middle East? What do you mean by "Middle East"?, Egypt was much involved in the ancient Near East and Mediterranean as Babylon or PHoenicia. You know what, forget it. You really are great at disproving stereotypes. You really put the smart Asian stereotype to rest. Next thing you know, we'll see that you're 6'8 and an able driver.
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Post by alexandrian on May 27, 2005 18:31:12 GMT -5
Damn. I got caught. Leave it to Circe. Girls always win. I'm not comparing civilizations with him, if you think about it. No. Sorry. That isn't true. Even if it were, for you to represent Egypt and take credit for Greece and the Middle East. There is no logic there. When did I say this? The fact is, China contributed more materially to modern Western civ (paper, gun and powder, compass, banking system) than A. Egypt did. Deal witgh it. Every one of your posts is an anthem about the great Egypt. You're like a little kid with a temper tandrem. Okay, materially and modern TWo things that make sense that were absent from most of your posts. hahaha...Chinese did NOT invent banking. The first large and organized banking system was in the Islamic world (a claim to fame all citizens of the Middle East and North Africa can share). This banking system also had checks that could be cashed in at various cities. A trader from Casablanca could receive a check in a marketplace in Cairo and cash it in in Baghdad. I don't exaggerate ancient Egypt, I merely try to bring out the point that Egypt was a major global player through most historical periods, ancient times, early Christiniaty, Greco-Roman times, Islamic times, medieval times, Ottoman times, colonialism, and the Cold War era. I can't think of any other country that has been more consistently a major player in world affairs. By consistently, I mean through numerous ages and times. Also, I never chestpound about Egypt unless either you or the Afrocentrists, due to your common inferiority-complexes towards Caucasians in general, make a claim or false statement about or against Egypt.
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Post by mike2 on May 27, 2005 18:34:09 GMT -5
Human2, put on some of your wicked cool karate moves on Alexandrian.
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Post by alexandrian on May 27, 2005 18:35:22 GMT -5
Human2, put on some of your wicked cool karate moves on Alexandrian. And I'll respond with an infintely more effective suicide bomb and AK-47. One stereotypical violent act gets met with another.
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Post by Wadaad on May 27, 2005 18:37:13 GMT -5
Okay, materially and modern TWo things that make sense that were absent from most of your posts. hahaha...Chinese did NOT invent banking. The first large and organized banking system was in the Islamic world (a claim to fame all citizens of the Middle East and North Africa can share). This banking system also had checks that could be cashed in at various cities. A trader from Casablanca could receive a check in a marketplace in Cairo and cash it in in Baghdad. I don't exaggerate ancient Egypt, I merely try to bring out the point that Egypt was a major global player through most historical periods, ancient times, early Christiniaty, Greco-Roman times, Islamic times, medieval times, Ottoman times, colonialism, and the Cold War era. I can't think of any other country that has been more consistently a major player in world affairs. By consistently, I mean through numerous ages and times. Also, I never chestpound about Egypt unless either you or the Afrocentrists, due to your common inferiority-complexes towards Caucasians in general, make a claim or false statement about or against Egypt. lol mayne dont tell me your ultimate attempt is to make this Egypt vs China thing Caucasoid vs Mongoloid because I can certainly say while China was fully Mongoloid, Egypt was/is not fully caucasoid using my own research analysis China wins www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Egypt&word2=China
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Post by Circe on May 27, 2005 18:42:22 GMT -5
Wrong! I Always win ;D See. Leave it to Circe. Girls always win.
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Post by alexandrian on May 27, 2005 18:47:49 GMT -5
Egypt was a predominantly Caucasian civilization. Today, Egypt is definitely a country that is Caucasian. It is certainly more Caucasian than Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, or Bahrain. A googlefight between "Ancient Egypt" and "Ancient China" (with the quotations) turned up a victory for Egypt. Guess it isn't so clear cut. Wow. "Arab" beats "Jew" by a landslide. That was surprising.
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Post by Wadaad on May 27, 2005 18:50:15 GMT -5
Egypt was a predominantly Caucasian civilization. Today, Egypt is definitely a country that is Caucasian. It is certainly more Caucasian than Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, or Bahrain. A googlefight between "Ancient Egypt" and "Ancient China" (with the quotations) turned up a victory for Egypt. Guess it isn't so clear cut. woah by a landslide too. what say you, human2? (lol at me egging you guys on)
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Post by Wadaad on May 27, 2005 18:55:49 GMT -5
Alex..its your go! Egypt's honour is at stake my man!
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Post by alexandrian on May 27, 2005 18:58:53 GMT -5
Yes, but that program was written by Chinese, and his computer says "Made in Taiwan". If you're proud of your status as the world's workbitches, so be it. Egypt is the cultural center of the Arab world. Good enough for ya, Wadaad?
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Post by alexandrian on May 27, 2005 19:04:42 GMT -5
hehe I think a lot of peepz are actually staying around to watch this.. and on a Friday night. Man, let Alexanderian defend his Egyptology. I'm not even a patriot. I'll sell all my countrymen to Hitler for Heffner's 7 Nordicesses. Alex, man it's up to you. Egypt is counting on you. Don't let those sneaky Chinese dishonor Mother Nile. I don't think Chinese are sneaky or dumb or dishonest. Just you. Chinese people are actually my best friends and I appreciate their history very much, just not as much as Egypt, I find their culture interesting, just not as interesting as Egypt, I love their food, just not as much as I love "Middle Eastern/Mediterranean" food (you know, the typical falafel, tabouli, grapeleaves, kibeba, that are found everywhere) I'm done too. I personally find Egypt's modern history more interesting than its ancient one.
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