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Post by Tautamo on Apr 26, 2005 15:50:22 GMT -5
Berter The arabs who invaded Tunisia were already mixed with negroes, hence the heigher negroid admixture in Tunisia.
can you show us that arabs who invaded tunisia where mixed origin. also show us the negro admixture in Tunisia
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Post by Berter on Apr 26, 2005 15:50:23 GMT -5
Ancient berbers+negroes+arabs.
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Post by Tautamo on Apr 26, 2005 15:59:55 GMT -5
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Post by Berter on Apr 26, 2005 16:01:25 GMT -5
Berter The arabs who invaded Tunisia were already mixed with negroes, hence the heigher negroid admixture in Tunisia. can you show us that arabs who invaded tunisia where mixed origin. also show us the negro admixture in Tunisia The arabic tribes of the arabian peninsula had a great amount of slaves imported from the east african corn. You can find evidence of that in the pre-islamic stories, litterature and poetry of Arabs. I'm sure Igu, whose arabic language is excellent, knows what I'm talking about. When the Benou Hilal and Benou Selim arabic tribes invaded North Africa, they brought negroid blood ...which I expect to be more present in the east of north-west-africa ---- Tunisia. Tunisia was, in fact, the first country invaded en mass by arabs.
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Post by Tautamo on Apr 26, 2005 16:04:23 GMT -5
The arabic tribes of the arabian peninsula had a great amount of slaves imported from the east african corn. You can find evidence of that in the pre-islamic stories, litterature and poetry of Arabs. I'm sure Igu, whose arabic language is very excellent, know what I'm talking about. When the Benou Hilal and Benou Selim arabic tribes invaded North Africa, they brought negroid blood ...which I expect to be more present in the east north-west-africa ---- Tunisia. Tunisia was, in fact, the first country invaded en mass by arabs. Berter do you know of any studies? because Tunisia is aincent ccarthage
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Post by Igu on Apr 26, 2005 16:06:37 GMT -5
Not true. In northern and central morocco you would rarely see men with obvious negroid admixture. Its more common in the south, yes, but globally the portion of NAs that has visible negroid admixture would be, at best, ~5%. Northern Berbers have at most 5% Negroid Admixture (less than south portuguese), which will show in about 15% of them. Highlanders Southern Berbers have aproximately the same frequencies as Northern ones. Other southern Berbers have 10% to 15% negroid admixture. which will show in about 25% of them. Saharans Berbers like sahrawis and **moorish** mauritanians have from 20% to 40% negroid admixture. which will show in about 60% of the population. When I say that negroid admixture appear, it's not in its pure form, but some would have nappy hair, others would have full lips...etc. that's true, Arabs have about twice or more than what their berber neighbours have: An arab from the north would have about 7 to 10%, his neighbour (riffain, a coastal berber) would have about 2 to 4% negroid admixture. Arab moroccans have one of the highest negroid admixture in the maghreb (morocco, algeria, tunisia).
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Post by Tautamo on Apr 26, 2005 16:13:32 GMT -5
Northern Berbers have at most 5% Negroid Admixture (less than south portuguese), which will show in about 15% of them. Highlanders Southern Berbers have aproximately the same frequencies as Northern ones. Wrong
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Post by Berter on Apr 26, 2005 16:13:33 GMT -5
Berter do you know of any studies? because Tunisia is aincent ccarthage No, no studies. I just use my knowledge of History and ...my brain! At the dawn of history, Tunisia was a berber country (the word Africa, was derived by the Romans from a berber tribe's name--- Afri). Then the Phoenicians, and later the Romans, occupied parts of it. Their presence were confined to few colonies with limited populations (thousands individuals). It is the arabs who settled en mass in Tunisia, and nowadays tunisian population is overhelminly arabo-berber, with phoenicien, roman and negroid influences.
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Post by Tautamo on Apr 26, 2005 16:16:47 GMT -5
No, no studies. I just use my knowledge of History and ...my brain! At the dawn of history, Tunisia was a berber country (the word Africa, was derived by the Romans from a berber tribe's name--- Afri). Then the Phoenicians, and later the Romans, occupied parts of it. Their presence were confined to few colonies with limited populations (thousands individuals). It is the arabs who settled en mass in Tunisia, and nowadays tunisian population is overhelminly arabo-berber, with phoenicien, roman and negroid influences. i just would like to see the studys just for reading sake.i think it would give a bette more complete story.
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Post by Berter on Apr 26, 2005 16:19:11 GMT -5
Anyone here see any negroid admixture in this berber lady!?...
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Post by Igu on Apr 26, 2005 16:20:47 GMT -5
Berter do you know of any studies? because Tunisia is aincent ccarthage yes, they setteled there, as "a base arriere". Tunisian arabs have 25% negroid admixture on the maternal side (one of the highest of the maghreb, you're right berter, it's higher than that of moroccan arabs!) [25%(mtdna)+0%(Y)]/2=13%.
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Post by Igu on Apr 26, 2005 16:21:30 GMT -5
Wrong for you, true according to genitical tests.
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Post by Berter on Apr 26, 2005 16:23:21 GMT -5
Wrong for you, true according to genitical tests. According to genetics, even the british have a share of non-caucasoid genes...
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Post by Igu on Apr 26, 2005 16:24:01 GMT -5
No, no studies. I just use my knowledge of History and ...my brain! At the dawn of history, Tunisia was a berber country (the word Africa, was derived by the Romans from a berber tribe's name--- Afri). Then the Phoenicians, and later the Romans, occupied parts of it. Their presence were confined to few colonies with limited populations (thousands individuals). It is the arabs who settled en mass in Tunisia, and nowadays tunisian population is overhelminly arabo-berber, with phoenicien, roman and negroid influences. Right again, the middle eastern component of tunisian is predominantly bedouan not lebanese. they are 30% J* (Bedouan).
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Post by ayne on Apr 26, 2005 16:24:18 GMT -5
Look at these moroccans
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