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Post by topdog on Jun 21, 2005 1:37:05 GMT -5
American blacks aren't knockoffs and we don't think of ourselves as Africans. I know! It is so sad and pathetic. American blacks compared to African negroids connected to their ancestral lands, cultures, languages and in some cases religions are like comparing a eunuch with an intact man. It is obvious to everyone that the American black won't be fully functioning compared to other Americans as long as they hold on to silly and imaginative beliefs to Africa and its people. I am of course not generalisation to all American blacks, who have come to terms with their existence, and genesis in America, and have no need to belong to a bunch of foreigners in Africa or Europe or Asia. You are not the one to decide anything about whats authentic about black Americans. If black Americans want to embrace their African heritage we certainly have the right to, we didn't just drop from outer space from Mars into America. The bonds and ties may not be as strong but they still exist.
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Post by topdog on Jun 21, 2005 1:39:20 GMT -5
Correction: American blacks are 6-17% non-African. I wish people would stop inflating European mixture in American blacks. Don't believe you. Why are American black men 23% R1b, P25? They should be near zero. Do you think those Euro-American forefathers only fathered sons? Mark Shriver updated his study and concluded that non-African mixture in Africans Americans ranges from 6-17%. People have a tendency to overstate European mixture due to slavery but the mixture was not that high as some believe.
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Post by jay (mulatto) on Jun 21, 2005 7:29:23 GMT -5
Are those stats true? Europe is so decadent. Yeah they're true (the ones for present and past atleast, the future ones are only predictions), you can find dozens of sources which will say roughly the same thing. that europe's share of the world population was high 100 years ago, but now has declined, and is still decling. europe's white population is roughly stable, either slowly rising (for not much longer), or slowly declining. the same is true of america's non-hispanic white population, it's currently at 210m (72% of 292m), and by 2050, it would've only risen to around 216m (50% of 432m). so america isn't doing much different to europe, except america has a large hispanic & non-white population. US non-hispanic white TFR is around 1.8 children/woman the US overall TFR is 2.1 (blacks are around the national average [2.1], hispanics are much higher than it [around 3.0]). white america demographically isn't doing so much better than white europe. funny thing about those stats is that blacks are getting whiter. in what way? tell you the truth many of the women posts i dont find attractive maybe you should look at the men posts then? another thing about those stats most africans are dirt poor most poor people tend to have more kids. i'll be sure to note that point down.
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Post by lurker4now on Jun 21, 2005 8:26:06 GMT -5
jay like it or not when black mixes with whites they get lighter and more caucausoid featured.
its a fact poor people tend to have more kids.
look im sorry you dont like me saying this but i dont find black women attractive.is that racist to say? you seem to think it is
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Post by jay (mulatto) on Jun 21, 2005 9:03:25 GMT -5
jay like it or not when black mixes with whites they get lighter and more caucausoid featured. yeah.. and?? in what way do those stats suggest that? i don't recall anyone posting rates of black-white interracial over a period of time, or how the average genetic make up of blacks (afro-americans?) is becoming less negroid. if i had to guess i'd say it probably is, since in the uk blacks mix with whites alot (but we have major african immigration, keeping the black average very negroid), but us black-white mixing i've heard it's low, so that's why i wanted to know. do you have stats on this? its a fact poor people tend to have more kids. yeah it's a common fact. but you know most of the world is poor anyway. when europe was poor, europe went thru a period of rapid population growth, having 6 children per women, so did america, china went thru that only 50 years ago, india is getting over that, and finally africa is going thru that phase now. it's a very natural process in the development of nations, as im sure you're aware. the rapid growth of the african population in this present era, shouldn't be condemed, unless africans of today, are somehow different to the chinese of the 1950's? - that's a point you know, africa of today is probably more better off than china 50 years ago. so overpopulation is hardly any more of a problem in africa than it was in china 50 years ago. look im sorry you dont like me saying this but i dont find black women attractive.is that racist to say? you seem to think it is take it easy, i was just making fun of the way you structured your sentence: "tell you the truth many of the women posts i dont find attractive". sounded like you were refering too all women posts on dodona. ;D
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Post by Ponto Hardbottle on Jun 21, 2005 10:32:03 GMT -5
jay, when you started this thread you were talking about Africans weren't you? Not black Americans. Charlie doesn't like it, but I don't think they are genuine black Africans. Some of them are probably dark skinned Amerindians, others mostly caucasoid. You are mixed right. You would be similar to American blacks. Do you think you are African, and picked out somewhere in Borno State as your ancestral home? Will you ever visit Goree Island? You see American blacks there, often crying, these two ton betsies and black pork barrels, with their light skin and big heads, and the locals looking on, not understanding what these rich lard buckets from the States are going on about. I think it is pathetic. They would be better off doing an Oprah and do something to improve the life of Africans instead of bemoaning something which ultimately gave them one of the highest living standards in the world. That is me. What is your viewpoint about extra African mixed blacks?
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Post by jay (mulatto) on Jun 21, 2005 12:06:26 GMT -5
jay, when you started this thread you were talking about Africans weren't you? Not black Americans. Yup the topic is about "black african men & women". and the pictures i posted were of nigerians. Charlie doesn't like it, but I don't think they are genuine black Africans. Some of them are probably dark skinned Amerindians, others mostly caucasoid. what's this? who are we talking about? who are ' them'? i posted pure african nigerians, anunnaki posted biracials, and blacks of significant european ancestry, KLI posted ghanaians, some other people posted EA's. virtually all were pure african. can you be more specific thanks. Yup You would be similar to American blacks. maybe, i guess. Do you think you are African no i think im asian. ;D , and picked out somewhere in Borno State as your ancestral home? Will you ever visit Goree Island? never heard of borno state or goree island. do you mean gora island? i live in britain, most of the people on this island are goras. You see American blacks there, often crying, these two ton betsies and black pork barrels, with their light skin and big heads, and the locals looking on, not understanding what these rich lard buckets from the States are going on about. I think it is pathetic. They would be better off doing an Oprah and do something to improve the life of Africans instead of bemoaning something which ultimately gave them one of the highest living standards in the world. That is me. What is your viewpoint about extra African mixed blacks? extra african mixed blacks? more mulattoids will be better for the greater aesthetics of the world. imho. ;D
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Post by shango on Jun 29, 2005 22:07:24 GMT -5
Charlie, You have to look at location. From the South, it would seem European admixture into Blacks is lower. Reality is 1/4 - 1/3 African American men have a European forefather. The percentage with a European foremother is much lower. In the North where I am, there is much race mixing and Black men are marrying out and mixing much more than even I had expected. So, in future years you'll see many more Africa nAmericans with Euro mtDNAs. According to Cavalli-Sforza, American blacks are already something like 25% Caucasoid. At current rates of intermarriage, they will be completely gone in 1,000 years. Mexico already absorbed its blacks--as has Argentina. Sadly, the question "What do you think of blacks" may be increasingly irrelevant as they disappear from the planet--either through absorption [in the New World] or through disease [in Africa]. Correction: American blacks are 6-17% non-African. I wish people would stop inflating European mixture in American blacks.
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Post by shango on Jun 29, 2005 22:12:15 GMT -5
And....
What I should say is that when our ancestors came North and for those who went west many of those people intermarried with European immigrants Italians, Jews, East Europeans etc. So, African Americans are not homogeneous physically, but united by a common cultural understanding.
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Post by josex on Jul 1, 2005 2:30:29 GMT -5
All black people are cool with cept the ones from USA.
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Post by namo on Jul 4, 2005 0:41:07 GMT -5
I don't find black women attractive at all.
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Post by marduk1 on Jul 4, 2005 18:15:20 GMT -5
I don't think that some of the attitudes displayed in this thread are racist so much as just reflections of personal taste. "Discrimination" in the original sense of the word.
Personally I find black women to be some of the most beautiful, attractive, desirable, etc.
Whether from the US, Canada, the Caribbean, Brazil, Venezuela, Africa (and not just the Horn of Africa) doesn't really matter.
But personally, I can't get involved with a Black American woman who's too ghetto.. for lack of a better way of putting it.
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Post by josex on Jul 5, 2005 15:56:52 GMT -5
I don't think that some of the attitudes displayed in this thread are racist so much as just reflections of personal taste. "Discrimination" in the original sense of the word. Personally I find black women to be some of the most beautiful, attractive, desirable, etc. Whether from the US, Canada, the Caribbean, Brazil, Venezuela, Africa (and not just the Horn of Africa) doesn't really matter. But personally, I can't get involved with a Black American woman who's too ghetto.. for lack of a better way of putting it. lol, i love that, americans so quickly think of black people as ghetto laughs.
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