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Post by SensoUnico on Mar 29, 2005 12:16:00 GMT -5
You are taking the situation too seriously. Women walk out of marriages everyday usually taking the children but some do not. Your brother has a supportive and nurturing extended family. You consider your NW European looking brother as fully caucasoid. Others who accept the one drop rule obviously do not see it your way. Why do you think light skinned American blacks move away from their families and cut them selves off from them in order to pass as caucasoids? Your brother has not done that. The price of that decision is that some caucasoid Americans are going to think him as black and unacceptable. You cannot make people think and act like you or your brother. Live with it or you will end up bitter and twisted like Topdog.
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Post by quartermetis on Mar 29, 2005 13:00:37 GMT -5
I'm not upset about my brother being considered black as I am about the personal attacks on my brothers character, as any good sister would be. I could really care less about how I'm classified, I was just pointing out a contridiction made on these forums regarding the "one drop rule" .
Actually my family's philosophy on the whole racial identification issue is to go with the flow, or when in Rome do as the Romans do. In America we're black, and that's fine, but when we hop on the plane and visit our grandparents in Reunion Island or our Uncles and Aunts in French Guiana, or Martinique, or even France we're "white" (in the case of my brothers), or, for the rest of us sister we're "metis/ milat" which are French and Creole terms for mixed, it all realtive to me.
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Post by bad on Mar 29, 2005 20:44:12 GMT -5
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Post by bad on Mar 29, 2005 20:45:31 GMT -5
I used her as an example because she is half black but doesnt look it lol
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Post by CooCooCachoo on Mar 29, 2005 20:46:53 GMT -5
I'm not upset about my brother being considered black as I am about the personal attacks on my brothers character, as any good sister would be. I could really care less about how I'm classified, I was just pointing out a contridiction made on these forums regarding the "one drop rule" . Actually my family's philosophy on the whole racial identification issue is to go with the flow, or when in Rome do as the Romans do. In America we're black, and that's fine, but when we hop on the plane and visit our grandparents in Reunion Island or our Uncles and Aunts in French Guiana, or Martinique, or even France we're "white" (in the case of my brothers), or, for the rest of us sister we're "metis/ milat" which are French and Creole terms for mixed, it all realtive to me. White, Black... It doesn't matter. ...You're a self-righteous prig no matter what you consider yourself, or think other people consider you to be. I haven't even brought up race in this thread. Not nearly as much as you. ...I've merely brought up your brothers lack of moral character. ...But alas, you have to make it a racial issue. (People consider me White, People consider me black. Blah blah blah blah blah.) ...You're so "go with the flow", except you obsess in talking about it, and portraying yourself as cool, hip or mod, for a pretty dumb reason. ...Your racially makeup. If that's the most interesting thing about you, then natter away. ...Can I be against nattering dufuses who take too much racial pride in themselves for lack of anything else? Mixed, Unmixed, Admixtures or none, having too much pride in yourself over race is stupid and a bore.
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Post by quartermetis on Mar 29, 2005 22:12:00 GMT -5
White, Black... It doesn't matter. ...You're a self-righteous prig no matter what you consider yourself, or think other people consider you to be. I haven't even brought up race in this thread. Not nearly as much as you. ...I've merely brought up your brothers lack of moral character. ...But alas, you have to make it a racial issue. (People consider me White, People consider me black. Blah blah blah blah blah.) ...You're so "go with the flow", except you obsess in talking about it, and portraying yourself as cool, hip or mod, for a pretty dumb reason. ...Your racially makeup. If that's the most interesting thing about you, then natter away. ...Can I be against nattering dufuses who take too much racial pride in themselves for lack of anything else? Mixed, Unmixed, Admixtures or none, having too much pride in yourself over race is stupid and a bore. All I was pointing out is how can your arguements be relative if you contradict yourself no matter what thread you put them in? And by allowing the society I happen to be in at the time identify me for itself, it would seem that I'm not too caught up in foolish "racial" pride or else I would insist on being referred to as "mixed" when the rest of America tells me I'm "black". And how can you judge anyones moral character, particularly someone who's owing up to his responsibilities as a father, what about the mother involved, or should I say NOT involved? However I realize that no matter what I say you get your kicks out of antagonizing, so go for it buddy, enjoy yourself
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Post by CooCooCachoo on Mar 29, 2005 23:22:50 GMT -5
Oi Vey!!! Not everyone who has an opinion contrary to your own is trying to annoy you.
One last "opinion"... ...because it sounds like you've had enough, you've been a good sport, and oddly I do respect that you are willing to hear opinions that are not the most flattering.
As for...
...I guess maybe I have a higher standard for what those responsibilities are.
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Post by Bryce on Apr 9, 2005 9:45:34 GMT -5
In the US, if someone who's filling in the census questionnaire writes : "I refuse to classify myself." instead of ticking one of the "race" boxes, how is it taken by the authorities ? If the topic is discussed, how is it taken by family, friends, co-workers ? Is it possible to feel unclassified, "unracial", to refuse to BELONG ? I know the "one-drop-theory", which sounds like an aberration (to be polite) to me. Is it only a white supremacist's raving or does even the slightest percentage of african blood make an american métis (we say métis in French about any person who's multiracial, whatever the different ancestries) feel black ? True, I'm a white French living in France, I'm not a member of a minority, I have never felt, in my inner self, what it is to be segregated and scorned, so I'm not compelled to be militant about race. Once again, naive questions, it's not a polemic about the USA.
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Post by cullen on Apr 12, 2005 2:03:50 GMT -5
The funny thing is that her family isn't completely white my ex sister-in-law was always talking about and showing pictures of her Lumbee (mixed Native American) PATERNAL great gandmother, plus two of her three children by my brother are the only blondes on her side of the family. I think the whole situation made my brother a little bit more militant (not much though) because his second wife is of Haitian mulatto descent. He is a f...ng loser. Hillbilly without any brains.
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