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Post by nordicyouth on Jan 26, 2005 14:14:07 GMT -5
I've read somewhere (something tells me it was Paul Kennedy) that in the 1930s (early-to-mid), 'Whites' occupied the greatest share of the human population that they had ever had at any time before or since. I believe that exact figure was 1/6. I used this fact to refute Neo-nazis, because quite obviously Hitler had quite a large hand to play in reducing this share of world population from 1939-1940.
Can anyone confirm this 'statistic'? And I'm curious as to what percentage of world population 'Whites' occupy today. I would like to exclude the Middle East, Central Asians in Russia, and White Hispanics from this figure if possible. Can anyone help me out?
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Post by alexandrian on Jan 26, 2005 14:40:17 GMT -5
The EU has about 454 million residents, My estimate is that around 40 million are immigrants from non-"white" countries (if you include ME/NA region as white, the number decreases dramatically) if you add that to the white population of USA (roughly 196 million) and then add about 120 million white Russians (out of a population of 145 million) then add 20 million for Canada, and then add around 50 million for non-EU European countries, the grand total is around 800 million out of 6.35 billion. This is a very rough estimate, but I'm sure the ratio is no greater.
If you were to include other Caucasians, like Middle Easterners, North AFricans, and White Hispanics in your tabulation, then "whites" would make up far more than 1/6 of the world's population. By leaving them out, it seems like the "white" race is losing out, and considering negative birth rates in Britain, Canada, Italy, France, and the rest of Europe, and dropping birthrates among whites in "blue" American states, we can see that the ratio of whites to nonwhites in the world will only decrease with time.
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Post by Springa on Jan 26, 2005 15:46:42 GMT -5
"White Hispanics"... first of all what's that? Caucasoid latin americans? Caucasoids who speak spanish? Caucasoids of Iberian descent? Caucasoids of Iberian descent living in the new world? Do Portuguese speakers count? What about Portuguese people from Africa? What about german-Brazilians? Irish-Argentineans? What about Italian-German-Iberian Brazilians or Argentineans? What about children of Europeans born in Latin America? Anyway, who is and who isn't a "white hispanic" Anyway, my point is, that's a pretty problematic concept. It totally depends on your definition of white and hispanic. So please share those definitions with us. Anyway, "white hispanic", if you mean what I think you mean - caucasoid Latin Americans - are genetically and culturaly extremely close to Europeans. They just happen to live somewhere else.
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Post by nordicyouth on Jan 26, 2005 16:03:39 GMT -5
Thanks Alexandrian! Very helpful! As for Whites, Spanish and Portuguese are naturally included, and Europeans living in South America or descendants of Europeans. I do not count as White, Hispanics with any type of Non-White ancestry e.g. Mestizos, Mulattos. Obviously Heather Locklear is 'White' despite Amerindian admixture. So the lines naturally blur. I don't want 'Caucasian' or 'Caucasoid' figures, because then Arabic, North African (to a certain extent), Iranian, Afghan, and Indian populations must be included as well. Caucasians are quite secure in numbers; I'm concerned with the 'light' ones i.e. Europeans and their descendants, wherever they may be. And some Middle Easterners may be paler then some Europeans, but I'll have to settle for 'rough' accuracy, else it becomes too complicated.
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Post by alexandrian on Jan 26, 2005 21:11:15 GMT -5
Thanks Alexandrian! Very helpful! No problem man. By the way, I didn't include Turkey in my calculations, so if they fit the description your looking for, you can add seventy-five million to the 800 million total.
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Post by visigodo on Jan 27, 2005 1:45:14 GMT -5
Hi Imperator-et-Rex, I think your definition is very accurate particularly when you are making a distinction between “white”, as apposed to "Caucasian". Having said this, those numbers you request are a bit tricky to come by. Specifically when it comes to Latin America. Although there are white people in Latin America (European descent) it maybe difficult to pin down accurate numbers. Nonetheless you may want to look into CIA factbook, or the population reference bureau, or the global statistics websites. (www.xist.org, www.internetworldstats.com/) I don’t know if this helps you, but I hope it does.
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