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Post by CuriousGuy on Jan 23, 2005 14:26:24 GMT -5
Some Jews and white nationalist groups claim that there is such a thing as a Jewish race. That Jews look a certain way. I don't believe that is the case. I found the source bellow. Comments? www.angeltowns.com/members/racialreal/jews.htmlI found this portion from the linked source very interesting: The Jewish facial expression, by which many Jews may be distinguished, is a cultural and not a genetic character.What do you folks think? Thanks! |
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Post by LibLabDog on Jan 23, 2005 16:27:47 GMT -5
What do I think?
...I think you have too much time on your hands.
Oi Vey!!
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Post by Solomon on Jan 23, 2005 19:37:27 GMT -5
There is a no 'Jewish' race, but there's a (sub)race that Jews are part of. Some people say Armenoid, others might refer to Jews as Asiatic Dinarics, there doesn't seem to be much difference between the two. Genitically speaking, most of us have a common origin that we share with the Palestinians and other Levantine people.
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Post by k5125 on Jan 23, 2005 20:31:06 GMT -5
Facial expression? I have actually heard this theory proposed by others before, and personally, I think its highly unlikely.
Are Jews a race? No, not really, although it depends on what you mean by race.
Its more than simply religion, lets put it that way.
Most people that practice judaism around the world have significant ancestral ties to the ancient hebrews, a semitic people of modern day Israel.
This makes them/us racially caucasoid I would assume, specifically armenoid.
I think its safe to say that most Jews still exhibit physical traits common to middle eastern peoples. Dark hair, dark eyes, and slightly darker skin than european peoples. Sometimes Jews look clearly mixed. Other times they don't.
Sephardic Jews are the darkest usually.
Eastern European Jews have a lot of varying traits. Most that I know are dark, but there are plenty of blond haired blue eyed ones too.
In my opinion, Ashkenazi Jews look far closer to Sephardim than they do to Central Asian/Mongolian/Turkic peoples. I can say that with confidence.
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Post by murphee on Jan 23, 2005 22:06:51 GMT -5
I view 'Jewish' as a religion and an ethnic group.
Many Jews (my guess is at least 50%) show an Armenoid phenotype, or one that is largely so. Sephardic Jews often look Orientalid. Many Ashkenazi Jews show Alpine or Nordic influences in their phenotypes. I agree that most share genetically with Palestinians and other Levantines. I am an Ashkenazi Jew who appears Nordic, an example of the 'mixed nature' of most Jews.
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Post by Anima Eternae on Jan 23, 2005 23:43:25 GMT -5
You mean mongoloid? Serphards don't look mongoloid at all.
Please provide some pictures....
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Post by CuriousGuy on Jan 24, 2005 0:34:33 GMT -5
What is Armenoid and how is it different from Dinaric? I've seen many people use it interchangebly for example like this: Armenoid/Dinaric. Exactly how is the line drawn between Armenoid and Dinaric.
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Post by murphee on Jan 24, 2005 1:30:31 GMT -5
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Post by BabylonLion on Jan 24, 2005 4:54:59 GMT -5
The word "ORIENT(alid)" is an IGNORANT term, originated by Greeks and other Europeans.
This word incorporates ANY AND EVERYTHING EAST OF GREECE (or Europe) so, EVEN THOUGH MOST OF US TODAY ASSOCIATE "ORIENT" WITH MONGOLOID, this word AT FIRST used to mean any and everything East of Europe, no matter what race.
Notice, Arabs, Assyrians, Israelites are CAUCASOID, but not necessarily CAUCASIAN, and we are named "ORIENTALID" but not necessarily or NOT "Oriental"...(whats funny is, by the Physical characteristic make up of "Semites" we are the 180 degree opposite of what an "oriental" is, abundance of hair, large nose with prominent bridge, large eyes, large____ etc lol)
Ignorant terms are nothing new, take the word "Anit Semitic" which is denoted towards Jews only, but this cannot be accurate when there are OTHER SEMITES EXISTING! Namely Arabs and Assyrians!!!
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