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Post by Anima Eternae on Jan 21, 2005 20:20:51 GMT -5
Yes, yes, the biological Marxism is infull effect here. For example : Blacks DON'T have high level of testosterone compared to other ethnic groups, turn away....don't look! ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by Anima Eternae on Jan 21, 2005 20:21:41 GMT -5
on Today at 13:29:41, Anima Eternae wrote: These are stereotypes, which you should be smart enough not to fall for. No research exists on this. I suggest you do some reading. Heh, when it comes to subjectivity, consensus ironically equals truth.
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Post by alexandrian on Jan 21, 2005 21:34:53 GMT -5
Heh, when it comes to subjectivity, consensus ironically equals truth. Hahahaha...you have go to be kidding me....almost no non-asian people I know find asians attractive, and there is very little palpable adoration for white/asian mixes at all......I'll admit there are some very beautiful ones, but they are certainly not the rule....Mon Dieu!
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Post by visigodo on Jan 22, 2005 2:18:27 GMT -5
on 01/21/2005 at 20:21:41, Anima Eternae wrote:
Please point me in the right direction where I may find documented research or journals on the evidence that points to blacks being more prone to violent behavior due to skin color, or testosterone levels.
P.S. No such thing as a positive stereotype. (Usually all stereotypes have a two way street, hence the difference between a stereotype and reality) Believe it or not there are even several negative Asian stereotypes that I care not to go into.
on 01/21/2005 at 20:21:41, Anima Eternae wrote:
Consensus of the one, does not equal truth. Your individual tastes in the opposite sex is relative.
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Post by MC anunnaki on Jan 22, 2005 2:58:03 GMT -5
Did I mention eurasians have a stereotype for being very attractive and smart? ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) They have? Where? I think some Eurasians look very good. Russell Wong is a Chinese/White European mix and he's quite gorgeous. I find very few 'pure' Asians, especially the men, to be good-looking. There's one actor, I think he's Chinese, who's very good-looking but he doesn't look like your average Chinese. His face is not flat like your typical Asian and his eyes are almost round. Can't remember his name, he was in the movie 'House of the flying daggers' I think it's called. Japanese, Chinese and Korean women can be very pretty, but it basically ends there - pretty. They're seldom beautiful, the way a European woman can be. The prettiest Asian woman pale in comparison with the beauty of say Monica Bellucci.
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Post by nockwasright on Jan 22, 2005 9:09:30 GMT -5
Actually it seems that even Asians do not find Asians attractive. Consider the Anime or Manga, all the carachters, even if Asian, look caucasoid.
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Post by MC anunnaki on Jan 22, 2005 11:09:09 GMT -5
Caucasoids rule! ;D
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Post by human2 on Jan 22, 2005 13:20:08 GMT -5
I hate braggers. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Because they always end up looking foolish when someone puts'em in their place. (Wow, I just noticed something. The "banner" is being carried by an Egyptian, hardly a "pure Caucasian", considering most people in Egypt are a bit like Sadat.) Hahahaha...you have go to be kidding me....almost no non-asian people I know find asians attractive, and there is very little palpable adoration for white/asian mixes at all......I'll admit there are some very beautiful ones, but they are certainly not the rule....Mon Dieu! And what's the rule in Egypt? ;D The same can be said for "Caucasians".. Objectively, I think there are more attractive Caucasians by number, but most Whites I see don't look like people in Hollywood movies. They are rather course-looking. In fact, a lot of the stars have "Oriental" features... higher cheek bones, broader faces, softer features.. for both males and females. They have? Where? I think some Eurasians look very good. Russell Wong is a Chinese/White European mix and he's quite gorgeous. I find very few 'pure' Asians, especially the men, to be good-looking. There's one actor, I think he's Chinese,who's very good-looking but he doesn't look like your average Chinese. His face is not flat like your typical Asian and his eyes are almost round. Can't remember his name, he was in the movie 'House of the flying daggers' I think it's called. Takeshi Kaneshiro is half Japanese and half Taiwanese. He still has the broad, with flat-cheek bones, oval face characteristic of Native Americans and Asians, but he has more prominent nose and brow. His eyes are very Asian, just bigger. Well, did you ever think that Western celebrities don't look like your "average Caucasian" either? Just look at the traits I pointed out to Alexandrian. Seriously. Think about it. It's easy for me to see since I'm an "outsider". As for gorgeous Asian guys, there's plenty more... at least in Asian media.. can't say you'll be impressed by the average Asian man on the street. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) You don't see them in a more flattering light in Hollywood. Unless you're a clown like Jacky Chan, it doesn't sell. It's threatening. Blacks have already been accepted as the "role player". "Give him his White woman and the rapper/basketballer will be happy". But an Asian man in a good light? No way, not when his civilization is rivaling the West. Too threatening. Seriously, would half of America (guys) and maybe more, want to see a guy like this Hong Kong actor below rescue a blond damsel in distress? ![](http://img46.exs.cx/img46/1605/79-Louis2.png) ![](http://www.lahiguera.net/cinemania/actores/monica_bellucci/fotos/60/monica_bellucci-p.jpg) (Size of Monica not intentional. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) ) I find Monica to be very beautiful. But it's a matter of taste, as have been attested by people I know. Some might prefer one type, while another prefers something different, like these Chinese actresses below: ![](http://img133.exs.cx/img133/6046/37le.png) ![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v416/photo_bucket_1/beautiful%20people/Jiang_Peilin.jpg)
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Post by visigodo on Jan 22, 2005 14:08:09 GMT -5
I take your point Human 2. But again taste in the opposite sex, is subjective. Asian women you may find attractive, but they are as foreign to me as an African woman, an Indian woman from India, or an Aboriginal from Australia.
In large part, the average European men/ women desire the opposite sex: to be larger than 5 feet with wider hips and prominent breasts (broad shoulders and larger upper body muscles in males) with round eyes and Caucasoid hair and prominent nose and less prominent cheekbones and medium lips.
Most of these features are ingrain in our psyche. Just like the tastes a typical Asian Male, or Female have evolved their ideal of beauty. It was through evolution and preferences that has brought about ideals of beauty in the opposite sex, and is thus reflected in most of our western advertisements.
There is no great conspiracy to keep or make the Asian female or Asian male less attractive to westerners of the opposite sex. The reason I have never seen an Asian portrayed in Europe in commercials or film is due to the fact that Europeans find those traits I mentioned above more appealing, and therefore the market (for commercial, films, tv, etc) reflects this.
On a curious side note: I’d like to say that I have been to an Asian country who seems exorbitantly fascinated with European Caucasians; Japan. I was fascinated by the amount of Caucasians featured on their advertisements and to what seems to me a general obsession with Caucasians. From what I’ve heard from several friends who have been more traveled than I, this obsession is not only isolated in Japan.
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Post by human2 on Jan 22, 2005 14:52:20 GMT -5
I take your point Human 2. But again taste in the opposite sex, is subjective. I didn't say otherwise. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I don't particularly find northern Asian and northern European women especially alluring. Med and certain black women (not too mixed) are very sexy to me. This is hilarious. The average height of Mongolian males is one of the highest in the world, just below Scandanavia, if I'm not mistaken. Most Asian males who grew up in America (of any Western country) are around 5'9. Who doesn't want tall guys? Yes, Asians are shorter, especially in SE Asia. Some of it is genetics, well the rest has to do with nutrition, particular not having the habit of drinking milk. 5 feet.. hehe That's pygmy-size.. oh man.. Are you being serious? ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png) These traits certainly vary by race, but it's rather ambiguous. But I didn't say there was. Well, I can't say anything about Europe, since I haven't "experience" Europe. What I do know is that there is no normal Asian male in American media. They are either mafia/gang/criminals, or kung fu fighters, or weird nerds. I've never even seen an Asian female paired with an Asian male. The females are paired with either Black leading men or Whites. "Obsession" hehe oh my.. Yes, there is a tendency there, but what do you expect since American pop culture and Hollywood dominates. By the same logic I can say that Europe is "obessed" with America, particularly Black America. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I wouldn't call it an "obsession" for most/normal people, not even in Japan. I've been to Japan too, and most young Japanese are far more intune with Japanese and other Asian celebrities than they are with the West. In China also, they have a sense that American music is cool, but it's an aura and no one really pays attention to American celebs besides watching Hollywood movies. Furthermore, Japan's "obsession" with Hip Hop and Japnese women's obsession with black men is also an obsession with the West. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Perhaps "Caucasians" are inherently more beautiful. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Or perhaps it has to do with Euro-domination in various ways (media for example) for the past who knows how long. Or it's a combination of both. I think beauty is in moderation, and perhaps "Caucasians are better at this". Attractive people will show less extreme traits that usually is associated with a particular "race". Caucasian features taken to the extreme, and I have seen both extreme "Nordic" and "Med" types, isn't very flattering either.
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Post by Melnorme on Jan 22, 2005 14:58:46 GMT -5
Hey Human2...what's your ethnicity?
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Post by human2 on Jan 22, 2005 15:01:32 GMT -5
Hey Human2...what's your ethnicity? I'm "Asian". I won't get more precise unless you ask. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Yourself, just out of curiosity? Edit: just saw your sig.. so nevermind.. Sephardim? Ashkenazim? American?
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Post by Melnorme on Jan 22, 2005 15:08:06 GMT -5
I'm "Asian". I won't get more precise unless you ask. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) If you're East Asian, then you're one of the few that seems to be interested in race. ( South Asians on the other hand...well, you've probably seen references to GNXP.com by now. ) I'm Israeli, my ancestors were Sephardic Jews from various former provinces of the Ottoman Empire.
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Post by human2 on Jan 22, 2005 15:13:55 GMT -5
![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) If you're East Asian, then you're one of the few that seems to be interested in race. ( South Asians on the other hand...well, you've probably seen references to GNXP.com by now. ) Yes, I've noticed I'm one of the few, probably the only one. I'm not interested in race so much as I'm interested in anthroplogy, whatever that entails... linguistics, ethnography, race... genetics... Yes, Indians are very interested in it. What do you expect? India was the most race-conscious civ (hint: caste system) before the modern West. They are almost as bad as Nordicists, some of them, with the Hinducentrist stuff. They claim Kung Fu was invented by them, and original Chinese were Hindu-Aryans. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by visigodo on Jan 22, 2005 15:28:22 GMT -5
;D ;D LOL, That’s hilarious human 2! Are some of them that nuts?
I once asked a Chinese acquaintance of mine out of curiosity, why he thinks there was never really a war between the Chinese Mongolians and the Indian? His response: “Because Indians have never created anything of value, we Chinese would ever want”<br> LOL! ;D
***Please note this was only a joke between him and I. I apologies in advance and I mean not to offend anyone.
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