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Post by Anima Eternae on Nov 16, 2004 12:41:20 GMT -5
I assume that's what your white parent did when he/she mated with your Asian parent. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) You're the product of what you dislike the most. You justify your racist opinions by believing that a mix between two intelligent races must be something good when most white (and Asian) preservationists just see you as another genetic mistake. What are you talking about? Asian IQ is higher than white IQ. You jealous, girl? And what's the deal with the pseudo-asian avatar? Lose some pounds. Yes, if you like humans that resemble fecal matter.
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Post by Anima Eternae on Nov 16, 2004 12:43:48 GMT -5
Of course, full blooded asians have no curves, and their jagged mongoloid features aren't very aesthetically appealing.
White women, on the other hand, don't age well, look like they've been sand blasted by the time they hit 40, and tend to put on weight.
It's funny how even asian models aren't nearly as popular as eurasian models over in asia.
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Post by k5125 on Nov 16, 2004 13:10:19 GMT -5
You know what kind of women age well? Egyptians.
Egyptian women in their 50s still look very attractive.
Same with some East Indians.
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Post by nordicyouth on Nov 16, 2004 13:27:46 GMT -5
Annunaki: the majority of mixed-race people identify with their non-White side. Being White not only means having a phenotype within certain perameters (Caucasian) but also having light skin and the ABSENCE of other elements. While a Black-Asian mixed person can be seen to contain both Asiatic and Negroid components, a mulatto, for example merely appears as a light Negroid, except in rare cases.
My ancestry/ethnic heritage is 1/2 English, 1/2 Polish (my nationality is not). While I have phenotypical traits from both heritages, I could not pass for either. Most people think I'm Dutch, or Swedish, or Russian, anything but what I really am.
Example: there could be a Somali couple in Poland as refugees, and they could have a child there (completely Somali), and raise it as a Pole with the Polish tongue. Even though I do not speak Polish, I would not consider this child more Polish than me, in fact I would regard it as a Polish national of Somali descent, or most likely a refugee.
I have an Iranian friend. He's not very knowledgeable like many of his peers, and I've taken an interest in Iranian history. I can receive a PhD in Iranian studies, speak Farsi, live in Iran, and marry an Iranian, but the fact is I will not be more Iranian (or even just Iranian) than he is. Nor will the people of Iran accept me as one of them independently or above him.
Your child is obviously being raised as a Swede, but again, the fact is that he or she will probably be Italianate in appearance, unless you or your husband's genetics prove overwhelmingly dominant.
Your child will be differ from the typical native Swedish phenotype. The closer your phenotype is to that of Sweden, the less variation, the farther, the more. In addition, you are contributing in a small way to the 'browning' of the North and Western European population. Not as much as an African, true, but a contribution nonetheless.
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Post by MC anunnaki on Nov 16, 2004 15:09:57 GMT -5
What are you talking about? Asian IQ is higher than white IQ. The difference is only a few points. It's not like Asians tower with an average of 120 or something. And besides, the IQ is the last thing White preservationist care about. To mix with Asians is still a big step down for them. You jealous, girl? And what's the deal with the pseudo-asian avatar? Lose some pounds. Jealous of what? Asians? Most likely not, since I have all the physical attributes they desire. I thank my genes for that. ;D Pseudo-Asian avatar was the word, yes. The only Asian about my avatar is the hairstyle and makeup. Asians don't have big almond-shaped eyes. Just because I like geisha makeup doesn't mean I want to be Asian. Yes, if you like humans that resemble fecal matter. Most of us would rather look like fecal matter than have it between the ears like you have. You're just pissed because east African women look better than your beloved Asians. ;D
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Post by ramsharma on Nov 16, 2004 15:19:03 GMT -5
Asians have all types of eyes. Almond shaped eyes can indeed be found among Asians. Eurasians are some of the most beautiful people I have come across, hands down.
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Post by MC anunnaki on Nov 16, 2004 15:23:04 GMT -5
Annunaki: the majority of mixed-race people identify with their non-White side. Being White not only means having a phenotype within certain perameters (Caucasian) but also having light skin and the ABSENCE of other elements. While a Black-Asian mixed person can be seen to contain both Asiatic and Negroid components, a mulatto, for example merely appears as a light Negroid, except in rare cases. Lots of bla for nothing. Still, the identification decision is theirs to make, not yours. You have no say if a mulatto with one Swedish parent decides to call himself/herself Swedish or not. My ancestry/ethnic heritage is 1/2 English, 1/2 Polish (my nationality is not). While I have phenotypical traits from both heritages, I could not pass for either. Most people think I'm Dutch, or Swedish, or Russian, anything but what I really am. I'm sure it's a huuuuge problem for you. Example: there could be a Somali couple in Poland as refugees, and they could have a child there (completely Somali), and raise it as a Pole with the Polish tongue. Even though I do not speak Polish, I would not consider this child more Polish than me, in fact I would regard it as a Polish national of Somali descent, or most likely a refugee. I never wrote that you become Polish or Swedish just by living in the country. I don't see myself as an ethnic Swede because I'm not an ethnic Swede. 'Halflings' like my daughter on the other hand are Swedish. Naturally, a Somali who mates with another Somali outside Somalia will never have anything but a Somalian child. I have an Iranian friend. He's not very knowledgeable like many of his peers, and I've taken an interest in Iranian history. I can receive a PhD in Iranian studies, speak Farsi, live in Iran, and marry an Iranian, but the fact is I will not be more Iranian (or even just Iranian) than he is. Nor will the people of Iran accept me as one of them independently or above him. Swedes accept me as one of their own, if not ethnically then culturally. I'm sure Iranians will accept you as their own if you live there for many years. That still doesn't make you an ethnic Iranian, but - oh the mother of all surprises - race is not everything. Besides, I'm pretty sure they'll see your half-Iranian children as Iranian even if they'd pop out a bit fairer and different in facial bone structure (and perhaps taller?). Your child is obviously being raised as a Swede, but again, the fact is that he or she will probably be Italianate in appearance, unless you or your husband's genetics prove overwhelmingly dominant. The only thing she has from my side are hazel-coloured and big almond-shaped eyes (big eyes ain't exactly what your average Swede have). Apart from that her colouring (light-brown hair, fair-skin with a reddish tone) is Swedish. Not all Swedes are blonde and blue-eyed. Her facial bone structure is completely that of her father's: They both have very long and narrow faces. My husband actually resembles the actor Max von Sydow when it comes to head shape. She will also grow to be tall like him. At least 185 cm. And guess what - even if she wouldn't look all like him, she'd still be accepted as Swedish by Swedes. Your child will be differ from the typical native Swedish phenotype. The closer your phenotype is to that of Sweden, the less variation, the farther, the more. In addition, you are contributing in a small way to the 'browning' of the North and Western European population. Not as much as an African, true, but a contribution nonetheless. If by 'browning' you mean darker hair and eyes, then yes, but that is really irrelevant. Half of all Swedes have dark hair and very few keep the white hair they're born with. If you see brown hair as 'browning' then that's solely your problem. You also fail to see that the genes for fair attributes are passed to race-mixed children as well so it's not exactly unlikely that my daughter (who's not even race-mixed) has blonde and blue-eyed children in the future. After all, my brother already managed to father a daughter who is fairer than your average Swede. And - in the end - all of the above is none of your business. If the average Swede doesn't mind to father brown-haired kids then the decision about Sweden's racial future has already been made.
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Post by MC anunnaki on Nov 16, 2004 15:25:08 GMT -5
Asians have all types of eyes. Almond shaped eyes can indeed be found among Asians. Eurasians are some of the most beautiful people I have come across, hands down. We're talking about NE Asians. Japanese, Chinese, Korean. Anima has already stated that he doesn't like the rest of Asia and in his eyes Eurasians are only those who are of NE Asian and European descent. NE Asians do not have big almond-shaped eyes. If they do, they're not 'pure' Asians.
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Post by ramsharma on Nov 16, 2004 15:33:06 GMT -5
Well, "almond shaped" is a very confusing term. Some have described Catherine Zeta Jones' eyes as almond shaped. Blacks can supposedly have almond shaped eyes also. Then again, here is a nugget I just found: "The largest human racial group consists of East Asians and includes Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Filipinos, Indonesians, Malayans, and Thais. East Asians have sometimes been called Mongoloids, meaning “like Mongols”. Mongols have straight, black hair and a generally wide, flat face with such features as sparse beard and moustache, and a fold of skin (the epicanthic fold) that covers at least the inner corner of the eye and gives it an almond-shaped appearance. Most East Asians share these features and certain characteristics of the teeth, but the peoples of South East Asia are generally smaller, darker, and more slender than those farther north. In fact, people of South China tend to resemble other South East Asians more than they do the North Chinese. Also, it is not always possible to distinguish Chinese people from Koreans and Japanese on the basis of physical characteristics. Throughout history the peoples of the region have migrated and intermixed, so that national boundaries do not coincide with discrete sub-races in modern Asia."
I have also come across some sites that describe "almond shaped eyes" specifically as "Asian eyes".
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Post by MC anunnaki on Nov 16, 2004 15:38:33 GMT -5
Well, "almond shaped" is a very confusing term. Some have described Catherine Zeta Jones' eyes as almond shaped. Blacks can supposedly have almond shaped eyes also. Then again, here is a nugget I just found: "The largest human racial group consists of East Asians and includes Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Filipinos, Indonesians, Malayans, and Thais. East Asians have sometimes been called Mongoloids, meaning “like Mongols”. Mongols have straight, black hair and a generally wide, flat face with such features as sparse beard and moustache, and a fold of skin (the epicanthic fold) that covers at least the inner corner of the eye and gives it an almond-shaped appearance. Most East Asians share these features and certain characteristics of the teeth, but the peoples of South East Asia are generally smaller, darker, and more slender than those farther north. In fact, people of South China tend to resemble other South East Asians more than they do the North Chinese. Also, it is not always possible to distinguish Chinese people from Koreans and Japanese on the basis of physical characteristics. Throughout history the peoples of the region have migrated and intermixed, so that national boundaries do not coincide with discrete sub-races in modern Asia." I have also come across some sites that describe "almond shaped eyes" specifically as "Asian eyes". The keyword being big almond-shaped eyes. On Asians where the epicathic fold is not so visible their eyes turn out more almond-shaped. I have however difficulties seeing how your average Chinese or Japanese has almond-shaped eyes. I guess it's a matter of definition. To me almond-shaped are the kind of eyes most Meds, Indians and Middle Easterners have, that is big eyes with an almond-shape (not round like fish-eyes). To me, East Asians (Mongoloids) do not posses those kind of eyes. Like I wrote, I probably just define almond-shape in a different way. My eyes are almond-shaped to me. NE Asians eyes just look like small lines to me.
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Post by ramsharma on Nov 16, 2004 15:48:39 GMT -5
I think it is a fallacy to describe all Asian eyes as "small", East Asians including. Just because they have epicanthic folds does not mean their eyes have to be small. Still, in no shape or form do they have eyes as big as meds or Europeans. I agree with that point of view.
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Post by MC anunnaki on Nov 16, 2004 15:51:41 GMT -5
I think it is a fallacy to describe all Asian eyes as "small", East Asians including. Just because they have epicanthic folds does not mean their eyes have to be small. Still, in no shape or form do they have eyes as big as meds or Europeans. I agree with that point of view. I guess it all boils down to who and what we compare to. Meds are dark compared to Nords but fair compared to say Iraqis. Nordic eyes are big compared to NE Asian eyes (your average Mongoloid, not the exception with big eyes) but small compared to Med eyes and so on.
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Post by nordicyouth on Nov 16, 2004 16:08:40 GMT -5
'Browning' refers solely to skin pigmentation, not hair or eye colour. I'm well aware of the presence of indigenous Scandinavians with darker eyes and/or darker hair. If you have produced a child fairer than the 'average' ethnic Swede than congratulations! Unfortunately, this is NOT the norm. Darker skin tone, eyes, and hair are DOMINANT genes, whether it applies to you and your brother or not.
By your own admission you admit that being 'ethnic' requires being within the phenotypical parameters of that particular ethnicity. The average mulatto, for example, would NOT fit into the Swedish parameters, no matter how many dark-eyed and/or dark-haired Swedes are to be found.
Africans bring the most pressing threat of 'browning' to Europe, followed by South Asians (Indo) and then Middle Easterners. Among Middle Easterners, the least deviation would be caused most likely by Syrians and Lebanese, the most from Negro-Arabic persons.
And as ethnicities are usually happy the way they are, they view this 'browning,' admixture, etc., as undesirable.
You are a Swedish national I assume, yet you do not call yourself an ethnic Swede? At least some degree of that is because you do not belong to their phenotype. As you are not a massive deviation, you blend in easier, than say a Somali.
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Post by cocacola on Nov 16, 2004 18:06:30 GMT -5
I see your point imperator-ex. I feel the same way about the 2 million bengali refugees in karachi(my hometown) but I have seen some half pakistanis or quarter pakistanis with blond hair blue eyes and fair skin. Genes can work in weird ways but there's no point in adding 'unwanted' genes to a national ethnic makeup. However, many europeans marry africans, mongoloids, south asians, middle easterners so if they dont care there's nothing we can do about it.
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Post by cocacola on Nov 16, 2004 18:09:48 GMT -5
Actually, a quantitative study found that in White Male/Asian Female couples, the AF had a history of dating WMs while the WMs themselves usually had a 'multicultural' dating history, or it was their first time dating outside their race. Thus, it seems the Asian females are the aggressors here despite appearances. However, I do believe that White males find Asian females 'easier' to get and less complicated than White females - Asian females aim to please, esp. if they are born there (due to Oriental gender hierarchy). Yet once married, the Asian females tend to become quite naggy, esp. when it comes to household finances - so weak White men, looking for the path of least resistance, watch out! I know quite a few of these asian women. Running after white guys. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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