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Post by executiona9 on Jun 27, 2004 9:29:51 GMT -5
I disagree with some of this statement. I think the Mediterranean is it's only special race, we fit loosely into the caucasian family, but we are gratefully distinguishable from northern Europeans. I feel more affinity to an Italian than I do a Swede. We simply don't want to be confused with a northern Euro. We have our own culture, traditions, genetic make-up, looks, history and language. We have been civilized a millenium before the barbarians of the north. Please be a little bit more careful how you classify. Nordic women can certainly tell the difference, so can you. I'm a little offended, especially coming from an anthropologist. Im here to discuss anthropology stuff. Im not here to discuss childish things like Nordic women love Mediterrenean men or Mediterrenean women love Nordic men. I leave such childish debates to little children like you. (Furthermore im Alpine myself, so I dont care about the Nordic vs Med thing.)
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Post by xxx on Jun 27, 2004 9:54:49 GMT -5
Im here to discuss anthropology stuff. Im not here to discuss childish things like Nordic women love Mediterrenean men or Mediterrenean women love Nordic men. I leave such childish debates to little children like you. And for an small and additional comment he makes on Nordic women abililty to tell the difference between Nordic and Mediterranean peoples, you dimiss his entire post? So much for your Anthropological interest. Aren't you the Dutch guy who not that long ago said you were part Nordid and part Mediterranid? Is that what Nordid+Mediterranid gives? Alpinid?
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Post by executiona9 on Jun 27, 2004 10:35:10 GMT -5
Topics like this are made because people feel insecure and inferior.
Northern-European, Central-European and Southern-European women in Europe worship white-american TV Celebrity men. Swedish women prefer white-american TV Celebrity men, Italian women prefer white-american TV celebrity men etc.
American TV celebrity men like Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Ben Affleck, Justin Timberlake, Ashton Kutcher and Josh Hartnett are the most popular men in the world.
And since almost all of American men are of British/Irish/German heritage, some Southern-European guys like Ptolemy feel insecure.
Thats why Ptolemy made this topic, to take his insecurity away.
If you are confident about yourself and dont feel threatened by other men, then you dont have to make such silly insecure topics like this.
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Post by whydah on Jun 27, 2004 12:38:07 GMT -5
I think executiona makes good points ptolemy. Maybe you should not be threated by the American actors if you are. Many women around the world worship these British/Irish/German men who are put in the cinemas by a British/Irish/German America. In reality and on the ground, real women have to look for real men. In reality they seem to find Mediterrenean men most appealing.
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Post by buddyrydell on Jun 27, 2004 14:12:42 GMT -5
Well, I find this somewhat funny as I'm the product of a mostly northern/central European-descended mother and a southern European-descended father. I don't doubt that many women love Mediterranean men but at the same time many others may prefer the British/Irish/German types, while still others like black or Asian guys. It simply depends on the woman in question. As far as what girls tend to be attracted to me, I've had the northern European types and the Mediterranean types come up to me, as well as girls of non-European backgrounds. Not trying to sound arrogant here, but it just goes to show you that attraction just varies with the individual. Btw, my appearance is more like that of my father, Mediterranean. But I certainly don't consider myself to be "mixed race," that's just ridiculous as both of my parents are European in origin. Overall, I think that any race vs. any other is stupid, because it only breeds hate and ignorance.
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Post by xxx on Jun 27, 2004 14:42:57 GMT -5
Topics like this are made because people feel insecure and inferior. Northern-European, Central-European and Southern-European women in Europe worship white-american TV Celebrity men. Swedish women prefer white-american TV Celebrity men, Italian women prefer white-american TV celebrity men etc. American TV celebrity men like Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Ben Affleck, Justin Timberlake, Ashton Kutcher and Josh Hartnett are the most popular men in the world. And since almost all of American men are of British/Irish/German heritage, some Southern-European guys like Ptolemy feel insecure. Thats why Ptolemy made this topic, to take his insecurity away. If you are confident about yourself and dont feel threatened by other men, then you dont have to make such silly insecure topics like this. I thought that Dutch people were very down to earth. May be you were drunk when you wrote all the above? Has it occured to you that nearly 99% of films which are watched all over the world are made in the States and therefore most of those film stars are North Americans? Also, can you distinguish between fiction (films, film stars, ...) and real life? Ptolemy was speaking of raw, real life facts and events, whereas you come with the desires of film stars grouppies as an argument to let all your BS spread around the thread.
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Post by xxx on Jun 27, 2004 14:53:18 GMT -5
Well, I find this somewhat funny as I'm the product of a mostly northern/central European-descended mother and a southern European-descended father. I don't doubt that many women love Mediterranean men but at the same time many others may prefer the British/Irish/German types, while still others like black or Asian guys. It simply depends on the woman in question. As far as what girls tend to be attracted to me, I've had the northern European types and the Mediterranean types come up to me, as well as girls of non-European backgrounds. Not trying to sound arrogant here, but it just goes to show you that attraction just varies with the individual. Btw, my appearance is more like that of my father, Mediterranean. But I certainly don't consider myself to be "mixed race," that's just ridiculous as both of my parents are European in origin. Overall, I think that any race vs. any other is stupid, because it only breeds hate and ignorance. Buddy, you should learn about yourself here: www.skadi.net/forum/ or here www.nordish.net/, where they will teach you, in the name of nordicism, that you are a mixed race element, your Med father a race mixer and an upbreeder, and your ''nordish'' mother a race traitor and what not. I know this sounds nasty and rotten, but I suggest you ask around in those places for individuals such as Njörd Eriksson, Nordhammer, or Loki. They've supported such rotten views in the past and I suppose they will still support them. I'm sorry that you have to read such nastiness, but that's what nordicism seems to be about. Or, if it is something different, that is the way they use to achieve whatever goals they may have.
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Post by executiona9 on Jun 27, 2004 14:58:23 GMT -5
I thought that Dutch people were very down to earth. May be you were drunk when you wrote all the above? Has it occured to you that nearly 99% of films which are watched all over the world are made in the States and therefore most of those film stars are North Americans? Also, can you distinguish between fiction (films, film stars, ...) and real life? Ptolemy was speaking of raw, real life facts and events, whereas you come with the desires of film stars grouppies as an argument to let all your BS spread around the thread. Its just a fact, dude. We dutch men are not the most popular. You spanish men are not the most popular. There is not one nation in Europe that can compete with American men. Everywhere in Europe you go, from Italy and Spain to Finland and Norway, women talk about American celebrity men like Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Ben Affleck, Justin Timberlake, Ashton Kutcher and Josh Hartnett etc. American men are the most popular men with women and im sure you already know this yourself, its common knowledge.
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Post by buddyrydell on Jun 27, 2004 15:02:26 GMT -5
Hahaha, I couldn't possibly care less about what some stupid redneck thinks about me. They'll still have an IQ of 60 at best. Any educated person knows that northern and southern Europeans are both Caucasoids, and besides, I'm too proud of my roots to be offended by such nonsense.
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Post by AWAR on Jun 27, 2004 15:54:44 GMT -5
Its just a fact, dude. We dutch men are not the most popular. You spanish men are not the most popular. There is not one nation in Europe that can compete with American men. Everywhere in Europe you go, from Italy and Spain to Finland and Norway, women talk about American celebrity men like Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Ben Affleck, Justin Timberlake, Ashton Kutcher and Josh Hartnett etc. American men are the most popular men with women and im sure you already know this yourself, its common knowledge. Well, I kinda see what you're getting at, but you have to realize that American on-screen men are the ones who are popular among women... not real life Americans. I think that women on general don't care much about ethnicity or race... if Chinese films were the most popular in the world and pushed by such a propagandist machinery, women around the world would be drooling over pictures of Chau Cheng Chug and Woo Fong Ping, if Mickey Mouse was a real person, he'd have thousands of hot women daily. On the other hand, firmly in reality, women like the tall-dark-handsome type of guy like Sean Connery, but that's just visual, what's most important is that women love to be taken by a man, and such 'machos' are only preserved today in societies which aren't corrupted by inane political correctness. That's the primary reason why women go to southern Europe for sex-tourism. They are sure they will find an outgoing guy there who will take her on a tour and give her hot loving and fun. I'm sure that if Nords lived in southern Europe with all it's charms, and if they acted like southern Europeans, they'd get a lot more action than they do by being nice and fluffy towards women.
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Post by executiona9 on Jun 27, 2004 16:57:58 GMT -5
Well, I kinda see what you're getting at, but you have to realize that American on-screen men are the ones who are popular among women... not real life Americans. I think that women on general don't care much about ethnicity or race... if Chinese films were the most popular in the world and pushed by such a propagandist machinery, women around the world would be drooling over pictures of Chau Cheng Chug and Woo Fong Ping, if Mickey Mouse was a real person, he'd have thousands of hot women daily. There is a lot of broadcasting of rap/hiphop and other black music here in Holland. You cant put your television on without seeing a black guy rapping. But still almost all Dutch girls prefer European men. Its hard to find a Dutch girl who prefers black guys over European guys here in Holland. Only about 1 % of Dutch girls prefer black guys. So the media doesnt have that much influence. Women/girls have their own opinion about what is attractive and what is not, the media cant change that. Humans are not robots who can be programmed by the media. People have their own opinion. I think its safe so say that most women prefer guys who have brown hair and blue eyes and are tall. There are ofcourse also women who prefer blondhaired guys, or brown eyed guys or small guys, but most women go for the brownhaired blue eyed tall guy. Blond hair is typical for North-Europeans. Brown eyes is typical for South-Europeans. So the mixture of North and South Europeans leads to the ideal man : brown hair and blue eyes.
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Post by AWAR on Jun 27, 2004 17:13:50 GMT -5
You adressed only the secondary things here Appearance is important, but the right combination of circumstances is what's most important. In general: Men from the rich countries of western, northern and central Europe have lost their initiative regarding women. Their women desire someone who's more 'macho'. Men from poor, ex-communist states have the right 'macho' attitude, but currently lack an agreeable living standard. Men from mediterranean countries are regarded as tourist attractions because they posess both the charm of 'macho' that most women go for, they also have a nice living standard which enables them to be more 'fun' than either the rich-but-inert or the macho-but-poor. The media have an unlimited sucess at influencing people... I doubt that in USA there are many women who would reject having sex with some basketball star. In Europe it's different because media don't have SUCH a hold over people, and also because black people are not as common here as in USA.
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Post by captainusa1 on Jun 27, 2004 17:20:11 GMT -5
Topics like this are made because people feel insecure and inferior. Northern-European, Central-European and Southern-European women in Europe worship white-american TV Celebrity men. Swedish women prefer white-american TV Celebrity men, Italian women prefer white-american TV celebrity men etc. American TV celebrity men like Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Ben Affleck, Justin Timberlake, Ashton Kutcher and Josh Hartnett are the most popular men in the world. And since almost all of American men are of British/Irish/German heritage, some Southern-European guys like Ptolemy feel insecure. Thats why Ptolemy made this topic, to take his insecurity away. If you are confident about yourself and dont feel threatened by other men, then you dont have to make such silly insecure topics like this. Amen, brother! Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt aren't exactly Meds, are they? There are attractive Meds, but it's usually the unattractive ones who attack the physical appearance of Nords. Such superficial behavior is exhibited mostly by catty women and gay men over here.
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Post by Ptolemy on Jun 27, 2004 17:39:32 GMT -5
Amen, brother! Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt aren't exactly Meds, are they? There are attractive Meds, but it's usually the unattractive ones who attack the physical appearance of Nords. Such superficial behavior is exhibited mostly by catty women and gay men over here. First off, I'm a middle aged married man with two children, I resent you throwing out your insecurities on the subject and trying to squelch the reality with a negative social construct. You're trying to indicate that this subject is taboo, and relegated to marginalized members of our society. I'm not the one who conducted the survey, sir. I maintain that the Med. race has certain biological attributes that make it excell at certain human interactions, that many other races do not possess. Passion being one of them. I maintain that the Med. is a very special and unique race and should not to be confused with a northern Euro. If a Northern Euro and a Med mix; it is race mixing (I'm trying to choose my words carefully) and this mixture is a loss to the Mediterraneo's unique heritage.
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Post by Ptolemy on Jun 27, 2004 17:45:31 GMT -5
Nordic women have no business coming to us, but if a women isn't getting her need's satisfied elsewhere, then what choice does she have???
And Med men are just human. How much self-control does a Nordic expect us to have.
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