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Post by henerte on May 17, 2005 10:09:24 GMT -5
Wow, three persons voted "Extermination of non-Whites in Europe" ! What's the definition of extermination here ? Expulsion ? Teletransportation ? Well, "extermination" means extermination! Dodona is not a place of diplomatic conversations and nobody beats around the bush, so to speak. I personally "prefer" sterilization. Extermination is simply to expensive...Auschwitz was closed 60 years ago and is in a pretty bad shape right now so you'd have to rennovate it or even build it from scratch. Anyway, it's capacity wasn't really that impresive...how much was it? Like 2 million people in 3 years? That's not much if you take the number of immigrants in Europe into account. Furthermore, the costs of transportation, security expenditures, and social & health insurance for "hangmen" can ruin almost every state budget. You will have to also hire a good spokesman and PR agency to muddle up public opinion, to refute constant UN accusations...you know, stuff like that. Sterilization sounds to be more simple. I don't know how do they exactly do it but I do know how to cut guy's balls off. Besides that, the sterilized still can work so you can profit from them. There is also the problem of mixed people. We can always resort to old, good Nazi methods. Everyone of mixed heritage will be racially checked and then assigned to a country where his/her subtype is "native". Those who fail to look european will be also sterilized.
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Post by Mimers on May 17, 2005 23:20:58 GMT -5
Oh my oh my..... I wasn't raised in Europe so I cannot truly understand some of the points of view, but I will try. I'm hoping people are not totally serious about some of the stuff that they just posted...right? I am Canadian and the system here is not perfect, but we have a mosaic of many cultures and ethnicities. So far it's working relatively well, and it's sort of an example of how things can work out in the case of much immigration...Without immigration, Canada would actually have a negative birth rate... I think the whole immigration process that an individual goes through comes in steps..first there is a "honeymoon" stage where it's all so lovely, then there is a stage where there is culture shock and rejection, then there is a "acceptance" stage where one can accept the situation but not fully agree with the values of the adoptive society and then there is a final stage where there is integration of the individual into the society and acceptance of the values, way of life etc. for example, it can take 3 years or a lifetime... so just as a Persian starts to assimilate into Swedish life, a Chinese comes in and starts this process...so stages overlap.... But I can also understand that some individuals don't totally assimilate, like in CA, you have sub-cultures within the larger whole. Just a little off topic, I love foreign films I saw a great one titled "Auberge Espagnole". And there were students from a bunch of different european countries sharing a flat in Spain. I loved that movie, and I liked the way Europeans make fun of each other, fight with each other, make jokes together, but also respect each other (and their space). Maybe I'm a hopeless romantic
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Post by Mimers on May 17, 2005 23:30:44 GMT -5
It just hit me: 'Non-white' immigration to Europe....I had just immigration in mind, but I guess that is more specific... Now that I think about it, maybe Canada is not a good example to compare to Europe, because Canada is a newborn in comparison....in terms of histrory and all that. hmmm...
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Post by Circe on May 18, 2005 0:39:07 GMT -5
Well, "extermination" means extermination! Dodona is not a place of diplomatic conversations and nobody beats around the bush, so to speak. I personally "prefer" sterilization. Extermination is simply to expensive... I bet "the exterminators" would prefer good old Zyklon B anytime... They'd enjoy it and would find it so much more fun! Not to mention all thoese golden fillings 'n' stuff... Oh my oh my.... if you stick around long enough, you'll get used to henerte's sense of humour and proverbial sarcasm of the Dodonites ;D Welcome to the club!
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Post by henerte on May 18, 2005 11:58:07 GMT -5
if you stick around long enough, you'll get used to henerte's sense of humour and proverbial sarcasm of the Dodonites ;D A random thought - How about sending them to Madagascar!?
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Post by Circe on May 18, 2005 12:02:12 GMT -5
;D A random thought - How about sending them to Madagascar!? I personally think Mars would be better ;D
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Post by henerte on May 18, 2005 12:08:39 GMT -5
I personally think Mars would be better ;D That's pretty mean! What have ETs done to you that you want to "lavish" multiculturalism on them?
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Post by Circe on May 18, 2005 12:39:37 GMT -5
That's pretty mean! What have ETs done to you that you want to "lavish" multiculturalism on them? What have they done!? They made the pyramids thus kick-starting one of the hottest debates in the history of Dodona, maybe even all mankind - were ancient Egyptians black, white or grey... ;D
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Post by MC anunnaki on May 18, 2005 15:26:13 GMT -5
Wow, three persons voted "Extermination of non-Whites in Europe" ! What's the definition of extermination here ? Expulsion ? Teletransportation ? Probably good old fashion extermination. It would be interesting to see how many of those who voted for exterminating immigrants and their descendants could do the extermination themselves. Talking big on the internet is easy.
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Post by kirusabi on May 18, 2005 17:08:20 GMT -5
what exactly is the debate? am i to believe that there is a problem with non-whites immigrating to europe? are u of the belief that europe is a white nation?
Don't be ridiculous get off your high horse and wake up.
There should be no prevention methods for non-whites coming into europe and any reasons given for why there SHOULD be is purely smallminded biggotry.
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Post by Circe on May 19, 2005 0:48:55 GMT -5
what exactly is the debate? am i to believe that there is a problem with non-whites immigrating to europe? are u of the belief that europe is a white nation? Don't be ridiculous get off your high horse and wake up. There should be no prevention methods for non-whites coming into europe and any reasons given for why there SHOULD be is purely smallminded biggotry. It may come as a surprise for you, but racists, various silly -centrists and white-nationalists are alive and kicking both on DODONA and in the "real world", no matter how obtuse, brutish or unfounded their concepts may seem to you, me or anyone else However that's what this forum is all about: debunking popular myths and learning about human biodiversity and different cultures, so that one can understand them better. Besides, it's an international discussion forum, and you can't expect everyone to agree with you, coz there wouldn't be anything left to discuss Plus you have 8 options to choose from... now isn't that democracy or what
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Post by kirusabi on May 19, 2005 0:56:57 GMT -5
It may come as a surprise for you, but racists, various silly -centrists and white-nationalists are alive and kicking both on DODONA and in the "real world", no matter how obtuse, brutish or unfounded their concepts may seem to you, me or anyone else However that's what this forum is all about: debunking popular myths and learning about human biodiversity and different cultures, so that one can understand them better. Besides, it's an international discussion forum, and you can't expect everyone to agree with you, coz there wouldn't be anything left to discuss Plus you have 8 options to choose from... now isn't that democracy or what of course its full of racists, its one of my reasons for joining the forum to begin with so i may point at them and laugh- but i still intend to put in my two cents
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Post by Circe on May 19, 2005 1:23:44 GMT -5
of course its full of racists, its one of my reasons for joining the forum to begin with so i may point at them and laugh- but i still intend to put in my two cents Who the heck do you think you are? Do you believe you can walk just like that into our little community, destroying our purity/unity and fouling the atmosphere with your silly ideas, not to mention your patornizing attitude? ;D j/k Welcome to DODONA Just for the record, I hope you're aware of the fact that DODONA is not Skadi or Stormfront There are people with extreme views here, as everywhere else, still I wouldn't call this forum blatantly racist... most people, I daresay all people, here are aware of your "Race 101" facts, but their views on the concept of race (whether biological or social) and its importance differ from one individual to another. As someone (murphee, I believe) wrote before, acknowledging that the differences exist doesn't make you racist per se. We're looking forward to your 2cents ;D p.s. Just for your info: Pacific Islanders, Australian Aborigines and South African Bushmen do NOT belong to the same subspecies, i.e. race
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Post by nockwasright on May 19, 2005 2:44:13 GMT -5
are u of the belief that europe is a white nation? Yes You sure you have something worth two cents to say? The must be a Human Misspelt Commonplaces Forum, I suggest you to join.
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Post by MC anunnaki on May 19, 2005 4:40:58 GMT -5
If people can immigrate to Europe or not should be up to each European country to decide. I love it when say Hungarians or Dutch piss and moan about my Iranian presence in Sweden. It's not their decision to make, it's not their problem so why bitch about it.
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