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Post by Satyros on Jan 17, 2004 6:35:06 GMT -5
Mutlicultural America is becoming the first home of the "brown" race? The mongrel race? With the inevitable mixing occuring between all these different people, will this continent produce a new type of human? A super mongrel human? Or will it produce a new kind of human that will combine all virtues of all races? The extreme degeneracy of the Super Mongrel? Or the extreme creation of the Super Human?
Is this mixing mostly for good or for bad? Where will it lead to? What are the consequences for the rest of the world? Will all the world imitate this phenomenon?
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Post by WB on Feb 3, 2004 20:42:48 GMT -5
I really do not see what's wrong with racial mixing. Perhaps this will happen in America.
I think a lot of "White Nationalists" fail to realize Europe's situation. They are obviously paranoid and worry too much about European culture magically "disappearing." Europe is still quite nationalistic - they wont simply "give up" their values.
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Post by alex221166 on Feb 4, 2004 1:19:50 GMT -5
I really do not see what's wrong with racial mixing. Perhaps this will happen in America. I think a lot of "White Nationalists" fail to realize Europe's situation. They are obviously paranoid and worry too much about European culture magically "disappearing." Europe is still quite nationalistic - they wont simply "give up" their values. It is not that simple. I consider myself a patriot - though not a "nationalist" due to the extreme-right connotation the word has (I vote centre-right) - and I can safely tell you that European culture is still endangered. Europe needs immigrants, but she also needs a higher birth-rate (particularly from a higher fertility of native European women), and most important of all, Europe needs to integrate her immigrants. As for Europeans being nationalists, that ends as soon as the referee whistles the end of the football match.
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Post by geirr on Feb 4, 2004 4:12:39 GMT -5
I think that whites in the USA will largely remain white. There maybe mixing between different races but what seems to be happening is that hispanics seem to be concentrated in the west coast(Mexicans and central Americans) and in Florida (Cubans and South Americans) The percentage of black Americans I think is infact falling. The white Europeans in America is largely mixed already.
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Post by citadel on Feb 4, 2004 17:23:22 GMT -5
The United States is hardly unique in racial mixing. The entire "west" is experiencing the same thing. Much of the talk of "multiculturalism" has more political basis than anything else.
Actually, in real terms, there was probably as much or more "mixing" (white and black and 'Indian') in the United States during the eighteenth century as now. It's only that in the past, it mainly involved white men and non-white females; now that role often seems reversed.
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Post by Sewall on Mar 18, 2004 2:35:29 GMT -5
I am not a "White nationalist" (for me the nationalism based on only fenotipe is erroneous) but is obvious that you don't live here and don't see the americanization (or degradation) of our culture and the change of the ethnic make-up in our nations. This is not "paraonia," just a somebody with anti-european leanings can say that our legitimates concern it is paranoia. Is paranoia the fact that between the 8 to 10% of the population of France and Great Britain is non-european and have a birth rate higher than the native population?
Is paranoia the fact that my country (Spain) don't have non-european inmigrants until 6 years ago , and today it has almost 5 million non-european immigrants, is it paranoid also to point out that this massive arrival of immigrants coincided with the arrival to the government of the ultracapitalist right-wing Popular party?
It is not paranoia, it is the reality.
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Post by alex221166 on Mar 18, 2004 10:44:21 GMT -5
It is not paranoia, it is the reality. Unfortunately, it is the reality - and I am not a White Nationalist either. Spain is particularly screwed up... Most of our (Portugal's) immigrants are either Eastern Europeans or Brazilians. Our non-European immigrants make up less than 150.000 people (most of those come from our former African colonies, and are relatively well adapted).
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Post by nordicyouth on Mar 18, 2004 19:06:09 GMT -5
I Disagree. If people like us are discussing the effects of immigration (some in an extreme manner), then what about the rest of the Western European or North American population? I've been through Europe, and I can assure the paranoid that blonde-haired and blue-eyed Nordic babes aren't running into the arms of Muslims (black and brown), and neither are Italian women. Especially as these people have little education, are generally ignorant, and work shit jobs. Europeans as well as White North Americans are very patriotic, to the point of dividing themselves by nationality, skin tone, eye colour, etc. In America minorities are relegated to ghettos in the major cities, while the small town American heartland remains British, Swedish, German, etc. DISPLACEMENT DOES NOT EQUAL RACEMIXING!!! That's the problem with these stats and all. Besides many immigrants want to marry their own kind, in fact many Africans are adopting children of their own ethnicity (not race cause they themselves view one another as different). Do people think that an Ethiopian is 'brothers' with a Sudanese or Eritrean. NO! Only the American Blacks have no nation except that inhabited largely by Whites, but Black Nationalism is rising, and many of their 'spokesmen' are advocating segregation to preserve their blackness.
50 % of all new AIDS cases in the USA are among Blacks.
75 % of Africans have HIV and/or AIDS.
Europeans haven't embraced newcomers, even if their governments require them to perform menial labour that EUROPEANS THEMSELVES DON'T WANT TO DO!
When AIDS ravages the West, even the Whites will be culled, let alone poverty-stricken minorities. Black Americans are richer than Blacks in Europe, and look where they're at!
Everyone is genetically programed to want to mate with their own kind, even Dienekes has demonstrated that - evidently he has a preference for Mediterraneans himself as he is Greek. Whites (Meds and Nordics) will never disappear. If this was possible then WWII or Muslim expansion would have wiped us out.
Amerian White Nationalists compare immigration to the fall of the Roman Empire, but Italians still look Italians, despite 'waves' of German, Spanish, and French soldiers.
People confuse American white supremacist paranoia with reality. It's hard to ignore personal experience in seeing non-European immigrants in the major cities, but reality is most of them are cheap labour and will never be integrated - only to a small extent. The British still look down on the French! Holland has a 'liberal' immigration policy but I didn't see many 'half-breeds' running around Amsterdam, in fact I saw many tall blonde Dutch.
GET A GRIP.
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Post by Vimara on Mar 18, 2004 23:07:56 GMT -5
I sincerely hope "nordicyouth" is joking. all his information is baseless infact i cant believe im even responding or even dignifying him. anyway question to "nordicyouth"
"Especially as these people have little education, are generally ignorant, and work shit jobs."
what type of job do you have what type of education do you have?
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Post by Indefens on Mar 19, 2004 12:39:56 GMT -5
NordicYouth-
75% of Africans do not have AIDS! Where on Earth did you get that "statistic"? The highest HIV rate in the world is in Botswana, where 40% of the adult population is infected. Sheesh.
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Post by berschneider on Apr 9, 2004 11:27:33 GMT -5
50 % URALIAN
50 % ANGLO-SAXON
100 % STUPID
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Post by cghost on Apr 9, 2004 11:34:52 GMT -5
There is alot of paranoia out there about the extinction of this race or that race. For Caucasians to cease to exist would take many thousands of years. By then we will all be gone and only a paragraph in a history book. I personally would not care. The formation of a "Brown race" with a new culture would be interesting.
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Post by TutanKa on Apr 9, 2004 13:31:34 GMT -5
In my mind, even if one day we don't destory ourselves in a nuclear holocaust and in how many hundreds of years, manage to create a whole new, single-ethnicity race...people would still find ways to seperate some people and puts others into different categories, just because it seems humanity isn't at ease until it finds a way to place itself above others, pronouncing itself superior in some way.
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Post by berschneider on Apr 9, 2004 13:52:13 GMT -5
In my mind, even if one day we don't destory ourselves in a nuclear holocaust and in how many hundreds of years, manage to create a whole new, single-ethnicity race...people would still find ways to seperate some people and puts others into different categories, just because it seems humanity isn't at ease until it finds a way to place itself above others, pronouncing itself superior in some way. Well said. Stupid people always find ways to discriminate against each other although some societies are more prone to discrimination than others.
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Post by TutanKa on Apr 9, 2004 14:22:09 GMT -5
Well said. Stupid people always find ways to discriminate against each other although some societies are more prone to discrimination than others. Merci ;D
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