Sandwich
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Post by Sandwich on Mar 20, 2004 14:48:41 GMT -5
As I said: All African friends I ask tell me that there is practically no homosexuality in Africa. Non-African travellers to Africa I ask suggest the precise opposite
- namely that there's a whole lot of buggery going on.
Personally I don't know the answer. I've never been south of the Sahara and I don't even know any gays. But I do know that the first President of Zimbabwe, Canaan Banana was gay, and that the madman Robert Mugabe wants to kill them all.
I think African intellectuals have some major hang up that their sexual practices ought to conform with 19th century European conventions, but clearly don't, so there's massive obfuscation. But that's only a guess.
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Post by AWAR on Mar 20, 2004 14:59:01 GMT -5
A friend of mine worked on a public pool in USA. He basically became a racist there. The usual visitors of the pool were black people, and, from what he told me, they weren't as much swimming in the pool as they were having sex, or even raping eachother in front of children.
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Post by nordicyouth on Mar 20, 2004 15:56:04 GMT -5
Do you think your friend's story had any vestige of truth, or was he using sparse incidents and 'artistic licence' to concoct a story that would justify his newfound views? I know there are differences in social graces, etc., but this seems fairly bizzare...
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Post by AWAR on Mar 20, 2004 16:04:25 GMT -5
Do you think your friend's story had any vestige of truth, or was he using sparse incidents and 'artistic licence' to concoct a story that would justify his newfound views? I know there are differences in social graces, etc., but this seems fairly bizzare... I think it's true because he was very anti-racist before he went to USA. Maybe I shouldn't have used the word 'racist', he does have a couple of black friends, but, what he saw there was more than enough to make him very prejudiced towards blacks in general.
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Post by nordicyouth on Mar 20, 2004 20:10:10 GMT -5
Well I've travelled throughout W. Europe, and it seems to me that while France purports to support multiculturalism, the Blacks are the lowest societal caste. They are either refugees or on work visas, and while they may stare at, follow, and grope the native women, it does not get them anywhere.
If White women do use them for sex it's a less demeaning version of Black women hookering themselves out at 15 euro a blowjob.
The European men are well aware of this, and generally highly reactionary. However, I noticed that despite decades of Dutch openness, very few mulattos were in the Netherlands.
I think AIDS will all but destroy the Black population in Europe, Africa, and North America, decimate the Asians, and to a lesser extent the Whites. It is on the rise, and Whites have the most education about it but that doesn't stop its spread.
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Post by AWAR on Mar 20, 2004 20:24:54 GMT -5
Well I've travelled throughout W. Europe, and it seems to me that while France purports to support multiculturalism, the Blacks are the lowest societal caste. They are either refugees or on work visas, and while they may stare at, follow, and grope the native women, it does not get them anywhere. I don't know anything about the situation in France ( and elsewhere regarding race ), but I suspect the low status of Blacks has most to do with them originating from mostly undeveloped countries, plus, they're new-arrivals, so, the lack of education in their home country, and the fact that they're the first generations in France probably influence their status most. As time goes by, they will probably become richer. If Europe doesn't become very right-wing in the future and expells the blacks, they'll probably raise their status. IMO, they will probably become much more than blacks in USA ( who are too obsessed with their backward culture ). My opinion is that any African tribe has infinitely more potential than African-American 'gangstas' do.
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Post by Indefens on Mar 20, 2004 23:17:24 GMT -5
I think AIDS will all but destroy the Black population in Europe, Africa, and North America, decimate the Asians, and to a lesser extent the Whites. It is on the rise, and Whites have the most education about it but that doesn't stop its spread. I agree that AIDS has the potential to have a severe effect on the black population in North America. The African-American birth rate is actually fairly low (around 2.2, IIRC) compared to what it is in sub-Saharan Africa, and the AIDS rate among Afircan Americans is spiralling. We'll see, I suppose. I doubt AIDS will do anything to Asians, however. I mean, come on. For one, there are literally billions of Asians. For another, their cultures don't exactly lend themselves to promiscuity. And unless I'm mistaken, Asian-Americans actually have the lowest HIV rate in America.
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Post by nordicyouth on Mar 21, 2004 3:52:32 GMT -5
You're right about Asians (East) in the United States, as immigration is pretty picky and usually the rich and/or industrious are allowed in (as in Canada). However, China has been using AIDS infected blood for transplants among its rurual peasant populations, and now it is being transmuted rapidly and the gov. won't accept foreign help - pictures of this growing holocaust are few and far between. Certainly AIDS is present in the poorer nations of Indochina, and to a lesser extent (as in White Europe) among Japanese and South Koreans.
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Post by nordicyouth on Mar 21, 2004 3:55:21 GMT -5
It is primarily the Chinese, Japanese, and Korean peoples that aren't promiscuous. And in the Indian subcontinent, AIDS and other STDS are virulent due to a high degree of prostitution, lack of sex ed, and contraceptives.
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Sandwich
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Post by Sandwich on Mar 21, 2004 11:54:48 GMT -5
Mainland China has a huge heroin addiction problem, especially in the countryside. Strange but true. Intravenous drug use is of course a major contributor to the spread of AIDS. Thailand is one of the few asian countries to have developped a coherent anti-AIDS policies.
As for the effect on the population, in Africa, it's just flattening the growth curve. I don't think it will impact on the Chinese population much either, the regime can adjust the throttle as it sees fit.
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Post by Indefens on Mar 21, 2004 16:50:49 GMT -5
NordicYouth-
I don't know how things are in Canada, but in America immigration is NOT picky, not by a wide margin. All you have to do is make it to this country and pop out a kid and BAM! citizenship inevitably follows.
As for HIV in China, I'm aware of the blood transfusion scandal but so far I think the government puts the number of infected at less than one million, while independent sources say worst-case scenario is still only ten mil. This sounds like a lot, but China has one billion, or one thousand million, people. Drop in the bucket! China's population is likely going to decline somewhat in the future, but only because of their one child rule and their cultural preference for boys.
I think AIDS is certainly going to become part of the scenery wherever there is poverty, but I doubt its going to have a long term effect on population growth outside of minority communities in the West, and perhaps Eastern Europe and Russia, where the birth rate is simply too low to compensate for the increase in deaths.
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Post by Goebbels1488 on May 9, 2004 16:07:06 GMT -5
Africa = AIDS and West Nile Virus
Asia = SARS
I predict in the more diseases will produce in Africa as well. Now, with Asia I do not know. Maybe SARS is being produced somehow because of the locality or what.
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izabet
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Canada isn't that friendly...
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Post by izabet on Aug 25, 2004 9:11:47 GMT -5
Hey shark, remember the former mayor of one of the GTA cities saying that Jamaicans are the cause of most of the crime in TO? Well, looks as though more and more are being deported every day. As in the US though, they are committing mainly black on black crime. Poverty in TO is staggering and yet, immigrants and refugees seem to flock there. Why live in such an expensive city? No one can get by their on less than a $40K per year salary. Less than that and you're poor.
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Post by geirr on Aug 26, 2004 5:23:59 GMT -5
I agree, how can someone deny the connection between toronto's staggering homocide rate and the importation of masses of impoverished immigrants with nothing to offer but another spot in a housing project or welfare program. Now im not saying that all immigrants are bad but i think immigration should be VERY strict so that the hard working people in this country dont have to have our hard earned tax dollars paid for welfare for incompetent immigrants. Do you have any source to verify the connection between immigrants and Toronto's homicide rate? I cannot find any evidence that Toronto has a staggering homicide rate let alone one caused by impoverished immigrants as you suggest. "Canada's homicide rate had stabilized in 2000 and 2001, after having generally decreased since the mid-1970s. The 2002 rate was similar to that of Australia and France and was one-third that of the United States." "Although Toronto had the most homicides (90), its homicide rate (1.80) was still slightly below the national rate of 1.85." Source: Homicides- Statistics Canada
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izabet
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Canada isn't that friendly...
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Post by izabet on Aug 26, 2004 9:17:18 GMT -5
Maybe we'll get back on topic soon. But I'll add that Toronto does *not* have the highest homicide rate in Canada. The most recent reports show Winnipeg as having one of the highest rates, partly due to Aboriginal gang crime, though I may be 2 years or so out of date on this one.
Crime in Toronto is not solely the work of Jamaicans. Asian gangs of various types (Tamil, Taiwanese, Vietnamese) account for enough themselves.
Unfortunately, Jamaicans in Toronto do have a very bad image. Just watch City TV news at 6, a very American nightly news program. It almost always opens with some sort of crime and the suspect is almost always a black male. (How very "Bowling for Columbine".)
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