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Post by nordicyouth on May 28, 2005 20:45:56 GMT -5
Queen Elizabeth II once referred to her husband Prince Phillip as a 'Viking,' due to his unmistakeably Nordic looks.
After its successful revolution, Greece invited the Danish royal line to take over its throne. This line was the most well-exported in Europe, and Phillip is said to be more 'blue-blooded' than the Queen herself. His heritage also includes German (links to the Battenbergs) and Russian.
Interesting that the Greeks had Nordics ruling over them at their own choice!*
Further interesting that the German conquest of Greece was far more political than ideological, seeing as Greece was technically already under 'Aryan' rule. I'm sure the thugs that took over its administration were swarthier than Phillip.
Instead of trying to find traces of Nordic rule in Greece in the past, one should pay more attention to recent history (relatively).
This is not to say that I personally believe that this state of affairs constituted 'Aryan' rule or that such rule even existed at a political level anywhere, it's just food for thought amongst the Nordicist-Medicist maelstrom. Evidently, Nordic dominion was probably on very very few minds and affected little save for Nazi mythology.
*The Greeks assassinated and rebelled against 'their' kings, and only Britain's last act of gunboat diplomacy saved Phillip's bacon.
**One can get into more details by referring to Robert Lacey's book 'Majesty' re: the House of Windsor.
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Post by Crimson Guard on May 28, 2005 22:04:34 GMT -5
Look whether or not the Italians or Germans invaded,the Greek Civil war was gonna happen.
Greece would have been far to dangerous to leave alone,as it gave the British an open door into Southern Europe to lauch an attack against the Axis powers.
Most of the European families are related and mixed,French,German,Italian,Spanish,Greek,British,Russian. Prince Charles is even part Greek among other things,so this Nordic link thing your bringing up is rather pointless.
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Post by Platypus on May 29, 2005 10:34:16 GMT -5
Interesting, But racially Germans are not necessarily only Nordics. European Royal families have no real racial unity, unless you see them as forming a unit on their own. Only recently the European royals have been mixing with local lower aristocracy or normal people. British royals for example got the Queen mother and Princess Diana who were British and not members of a foreign royal family as it was the tradition before.
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Post by Crimson Guard on May 29, 2005 10:56:56 GMT -5
The germans are mostly alpine and Dinaric..The Nordic element has always been a small minority,but the one most assosiated with Germans or Germanic/Teutonic people for whatever reasonings.
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Post by mike2 on May 29, 2005 12:41:20 GMT -5
It seems to me like the only place you would find true populations of Nordics in Germany are in Jutland or perhaps nearing the Low Countries. I think most of the rest of Germany is Borreby, Falisch, Alpine, and Dinaric.
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Post by buddyrydell on May 29, 2005 23:11:04 GMT -5
Jutland and Saxony, from what I understand, are the only German regions that have mostly Nordic types. As one moves further south, the Alpine type becomes more evident, and in central Germany, the Nordic and Alpine types are often blended, and of course as Mike mentioned, the Falisch and Borreby types play their parts as well. In the southernmost German regions like Bavaria, Alpine and Dinaric types are most common.
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Post by nordicyouth on May 30, 2005 9:33:27 GMT -5
A. Phillip's heritage is largely Danish i.e. Jutland.
B. Charles' Greek heritage is due to Phillip being his father - from the Greek royal line in this case a Danish one.
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Post by Artemidoros on May 30, 2005 15:31:41 GMT -5
There is not a drop of Greek blood in the "Greek" royal family. They were not invited, they were imposed and Greeks suffered from their presence. Good riddance for ever.
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Post by nordicyouth on May 31, 2005 8:58:41 GMT -5
Don't get emotional now, that's how Greece wanted it.
Many European nations have really had German dynasties on their thrones due to the sheer quantity of greater and lesser nobility in the Empire.
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Post by geo on May 31, 2005 9:43:04 GMT -5
There exist certain differences between the greek conception of the regime/institution of 'kingship' and that of nothern europe. Consider greece never passed the feudalism period that shaped modern 'kingship' and 'royality'.
'Kingship' as we know it could never succeed in greece and never will.
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Post by mike2 on May 31, 2005 15:11:41 GMT -5
There exist certain differences between the greek conception of the regime/institution of 'kingship' and that of nothern europe. Consider greece never passed the feudalism period that shaped modern 'kingship' and 'royality'. 'Kingship' as we know it could never succeed in greece and never will. Wouldn't the Greeks have been more used to an imperial king in the vein of Byzantium instead of a feudal one? Because after all the medieval history of Greece is largely that of Byzantium.
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Post by Crimson Guard on May 31, 2005 15:29:51 GMT -5
<<Wouldn't the Greeks have been more used to an imperial king in the vein of Byzantium instead of a feudal one? Because after all the medieval history of Greece is largely that of Byzantium. >>
My same thought aswel...Whatever happend to all they Eastern Roman royalty?
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Post by hansel on May 31, 2005 17:46:25 GMT -5
greeks want noone above their heads
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Post by Artemidoros on May 31, 2005 18:25:48 GMT -5
Don't get emotional now, that's how Greece wanted it. Not another patronising Greek history expert The astuteness of your analysis has left me speechless
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Post by Cerdic on Jun 1, 2005 8:45:00 GMT -5
The last of the direct line of the Paeleologues seem to have died out in England in the 1600s.
Of course the opposite is also true: the Swedes invited Marshal Bernadotte, a Gascon (who alledgedly had "Death to All Kings!" tattooed on his torso) to become their king in the Napoleonic era. A case of Nordics inviting a Mediterranean to rule over them?? Their own Gustavus dynasty seems to have decayed into chronic mental instability at the time, however.
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