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Post by asdf on Nov 6, 2005 22:33:17 GMT -5
Welcome to The Wall known as Oslonor's ugly cousin.
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Post by Miguel Antunes on Nov 7, 2005 4:24:49 GMT -5
WTF? So having redish skins makes one black? that's odd... The evidence against a predominantly negroid AE is given by the AE...they did not depicted themselves as other black african....they had redish skin tone...although women sometimes were yellowish...with straight noses, small lips and at best curly hair....have you ever seen a black person like this? I have...a black person with a lot of white blood...therefore not being black at all! Mixed but mainly caucasian...that´s what i would call that person... Have I seen a black African like this? yes...in east africa...were the indermediate status of the people there...between full negroid and full caucasian has been confirmed... dodona.proboards35.com/index.cgi?board=genetics&action=display&thread=1128351301About those Nubians....some of them look kind of Egyptian..wich simply means...that in Nubia..there was caucasoid blood as well...altough it was a predominantly negroid Civilization... And those Puntites...if Punto is really in East Africa...just proves what I said about it being a place of meeting between the negroid race and the caucasian race...just like AE was... Civilizations never were..or are...Mono Race Entities...I never said that.... Here...have fun.... images.google.pt/images?q=ancient+egyptian+pictures&svnum=10&hl=pt-PT&lr=&start=0&sa=NYou will undoubtly find some negroid AE...something to be expected since the negroid component was important in AE and not everybody looks the same but most of them are...mainly caucasian...I mean..I even found some blond AE among those pics..explain that!
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Nov 7, 2005 7:30:57 GMT -5
Just like most people think it strange to refer to Middle Easterners as "white," referring to rust-colored people as "black" doesn't jive with me either.
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Post by dplacid1 on Nov 7, 2005 9:27:06 GMT -5
mike thats just dumb if the ancient egyptians were not black then the ancient greeks were not white, the nubians have always been black african so stop talking crap the oldest african cicvilization is in khartoum sudan dating around 7000 bc .strangely enough the pottery and otherwares that were found in egypt dating around 6000. bc look exactly alike the nubian pottery. . the punites were not a mixed society it is below the nubians so how can they be mixed. praetorian reckons it was mixed then ended white , no it was black then became mixed, there religion , culture is black african would you like to debate me on this point, we must also assume every ancient greek and roman writer on the ethiopians and egyptians were stupid and wrong. show me a eyewitness account saying they were white ,caucasian etc . not one of them describe the men as red and the women yellow and with your thinking praetorian the nubians were regarded as gods since at certain times they were painted black like egyptian gods.
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Post by dplacid1 on Nov 7, 2005 9:46:20 GMT -5
actually the the earliest villages were in central sahara 9000 bc before it dried up. when people speak of ancient ethiopians they mean sudanese people.
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Post by king on Nov 7, 2005 10:25:38 GMT -5
Thanks of the help dplacid1. I was beginning to think that I was the only person who thinks that the ancient egyptians were black. Like I keep saying. People who think they were a caucasoid civilization said the evidence against them being Negroid is big. I repeat I would like to see this big evidence. So far they are Negroid people until someone can prove otherwise. P.S. Blacks come in many shades
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Post by asdf on Nov 7, 2005 11:41:42 GMT -5
P.S. Blacks come in many shades Yes, all the way from coal-black to jet black.
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Post by king on Nov 7, 2005 13:57:43 GMT -5
Actually Seizure black people come in many shades. I dont know what to make of your comments. You must think that egyptians are caucasoid. If you do I just have to tell you that you are wrong. They were negroid. I keep hearing about this big evidence against a negroid Ancient egypt. I would like to see it.
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Post by asdf on Nov 7, 2005 14:02:20 GMT -5
Negrids don't come in many skin colors. If you're thinking of lighter Aethiopids, they're hard negrid, nor negroid. If you'd like to prove otherwise, be my guest. You likely don't believe in DNA tests, so I probably shouldn't even bother.
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Post by Miguel Antunes on Nov 7, 2005 15:16:40 GMT -5
mike thats just dumb if the ancient egyptians were not black then the ancient greeks were not white, the nubians have always been black african so stop talking crap the oldest african cicvilization is in khartoum sudan dating around 7000 bc .strangely enough the pottery and otherwares that were found in egypt dating around 6000. bc look exactly alike the nubian pottery. . the punites were not a mixed society it is below the nubians so how can they be mixed. praetorian reckons it was mixed then ended white , no it was black then became mixed, there religion , culture is black african would you like to debate me on this point, we must also assume every ancient greek and roman writer on the ethiopians and egyptians were stupid and wrong. show me a eyewitness account saying they were white ,caucasian etc . not one of them describe the men as red and the women yellow and with your thinking praetorian the nubians were regarded as gods since at certain times they were painted black like egyptian gods. Look...probably Egyptian Civilization...at least the roots came from negroid people...I don´t deny this...Egyptians thought they had come from the south for a reason...they...like you said..painted their gods black the same way they painted nubians...The First Egyptians were from what one would call Upper Egypt..or even from a southern place...and they were probably very negroid... You can even say that the Fathers of AE were Negroid..I have no problem with that.. But as times went by the combination of Caucasians comming from the north...or even from across the Red Sea...changed the ethnicity of AE...it became less negroid...it became more centered in Lower Egypt...where the Caucasian Type was predominant... You can say that the Caucasians were Egyptized by the Negroids but they also contributed to the AE Civilization...they obviously mixed the Negroids...and they adopted their beliefs...about coming from the South and other things..I mean..even their language was from the South...Since the Home of Afro Asiatic is probably East Africa... Ancient Egypt was a Mixed Society....that began with Negroids..whom were later joined by Caucasians, who eventually ended up being the dominant type....a mix from wich resulted one of the greatest civilizations of Human History....! In short...only Egytpians...wether white or black have any claime on AE! And to deny that there was an Caucasian component in AE, albeit not at the beginning...but it became predominant..., is as ridiculous as denying the Negroid component... So...dplacid1...it's the following....AE chronology =P with 3 phases.... 1-Negroid-----2-Mixed------3-predominantly Caucasian but with a relevant Negroid component....like it is still today...and might I had that phase 3 still ocurred within AE...and not after... ENOUGH SAID MY FRIENDS! (Only two aditions although not quite relevant to the matter at hand...AE was in fact invaded from IE speaking people, the so called Sea People..who probably came from Aegean Sea and of Hellenic origin...but it was very late...in the New Kingdom..and...as we know..Ramses III expelled them.. And about Ethiopia being more mixed that Nubia..or even modern Sudan if you want...it´s because it was easier to cross the Red Sea at Bab-el-Mandeb strait....between Yemen and Ethiopia...than to cross the desert in to Sudan... And today..both Yemen and Ethiopia are heavely mixed between Caucasian and Negroid...but with the native type being more predominant of course...)
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Post by king on Nov 7, 2005 17:18:17 GMT -5
Somebody needs to start a knew thread on ethiopia and yemen. I have a hard time beleiving that ethiopia is caucasoid and negroid. I think they are Black with semetic. The semetic coming in the amharas and the tigrynia people. The largest ethnic class in ethiopia is the oromas people. They have no mixture. I would provide more proof but I am on a crappy computer.
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Post by mmmkay on Nov 7, 2005 17:30:35 GMT -5
Hey genius , what are these nigerians doing with lighter skin? Maybe do to "caucasoid" influence I suppose? I hate ignorant people. LOL. Now with the advent of the internet they can be anonymously ignorant.
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Post by king on Nov 7, 2005 18:17:01 GMT -5
I repeat. Somebody needs to start a knew thread on ethiopia and yemen. Like I said before I don't think ethiopia is caucasoid and negroid. I think the amharas and the tigre people are the only mixed people in ethiopia. and they are mixed with semetic. As for seizure Blacks come in many shades as mmmkay just proved.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Nov 7, 2005 18:39:01 GMT -5
I hate ignorant people. LOL. Now with the advent of the internet they can be anonymously ignorant. The one in the back middle has an Aethiopid (read: fine-featured) appearance. The others, including the lightest one, look typically West African. They're Hausas, I assume.
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Post by king on Nov 7, 2005 18:59:48 GMT -5
I also think that the semetic part of the amharas and the tigre is overblown. I don't think they are really that mixed.
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