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Post by everythingisalie on Dec 19, 2005 14:45:10 GMT -5
movies2.nytimes.com/gst/movies/movie.html?v_id=32053Watch for the Greek girl with blue eyes sitting down in a chair while watching the Italian soldiers play soccer.I had dreams about her lol! Its a funny funny movie. one of my favs now!! btw Greek island the sun and the ocean makes me wonder why anyone would want to move to America... greek soldier (not from the movie just a cool picture.)
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Post by Crimson Guard on Dec 19, 2005 15:10:36 GMT -5
Greek island the sun and the ocean makes me wonder why anyone would want to move to America...>>
probably in search of stability and making a living(ie Money) and maybe because of their dislike of the Ruling Government ect ect.
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Post by Platypus on Dec 20, 2005 14:11:16 GMT -5
I loathe that film ;D War wasnt like that for a start the film has a 1960's approach (the film is of early 1990s)and its a film against war. Butits historically mad. Greece was nothing but a nightmare for Italian soldiers (think of the messacre of Cefalonia) moreover the Mediterranean idyll of a platoon of Italian soldiers forgotten on a Greek Island looks to my eyes like the story of a bunch of disertors. According to military logic if they would have been caught they would have been courtmartialled. A few scenes were rather ridiculous (the Turk that brings the dope lol)
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Post by everythingisalie on Dec 20, 2005 14:46:10 GMT -5
I loathe that film ;D War wasnt like that for a start the film has a 1960's approach (the film is of early 1990s)and its a film against war. Butits historically mad. Greece was nothing but a nightmare for Italian soldiers (think of the messacre of Cefalonia) moreover the Mediterranean idyll of a platoon of Italian soldiers forgotten on a Greek Island looks to my eyes like the story of a bunch of disertors. According to military logic if they would have been caught they would have been courtmartialled. A few scenes were rather ridiculous (the Turk that brings the dope lol) it was a movie thats all.it was funny!
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Post by Platypus on Dec 20, 2005 16:07:48 GMT -5
fair enough! I just enjoy crushing most Italian cinema post 1970s.
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Post by kwalka on Jan 5, 2006 23:22:01 GMT -5
fair enough! I just enjoy crushing most Italian cinema post 1970s. what are your favorites pre-1970? im a big fan of pasolini and visconti, some bertolucci, obviously fellini
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Post by Platypus on Jan 6, 2006 10:28:54 GMT -5
Yes Fellini obviously!
Bertolucci, Pasolini and Visconti depends what film. I dont like most of the latter Bertolucci for example. my great passion though is the Italian 'Commedia' which mix comedy and drama and that flourished between 1959-1969 ca. with a few more popping up in the following decade the directors of this genre are not really famous abroad though: Monicelli, Germi, Scola etc
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Post by Ilmatar on Jan 6, 2006 12:34:20 GMT -5
I loathe that film ;D War wasnt like that for a start the film has a 1960's approach (the film is of early 1990s)and its a film against war. Butits historically mad. Greece was nothing but a nightmare for Italian soldiers (think of the messacre of Cefalonia) moreover the Mediterranean idyll of a platoon of Italian soldiers forgotten on a Greek Island looks to my eyes like the story of a bunch of disertors. According to military logic if they would have been caught they would have been courtmartialled. A few scenes were rather ridiculous (the Turk that brings the dope lol) Fully agree on the film. It was very oldfashioned even when it was made. However, I disagree about it being historically unrealistic or mad. The indifference of the Italian (military) leaders towards what happened to the common soldiers in the WWII was really incredible. For instance, the fact that the Italian military leaders signed a separate armistice in 1943 without seemingly having a clue how to protect the Italian troops and the common population from the German was probably just the last tragic move in a war where very little Military Logic had been applied. So, I actually can imagine eight Italian soldiers completely forgotton on a Greek island.
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Post by Platypus on Jan 6, 2006 17:44:08 GMT -5
yes you are right, there was immense chaos in 1943, good point. Thanks
Though it reminds me of an awesome film of the 1960's 'Tutti a Casa' with Alberto Sordi, in which some Italian troops ignoring the seperate armistice of the 8 september, get shot by Germans...and in the confusion the only thing they are able to think was that the Germans had allied with the Americans against Italy!!!
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