On Collaboration with Nordicists

[galvez]

There is the idea in Nordicist forums of working with Mediterraneans to achieve common aims: independence for both groups to establish their own states.

Among these Nordicists are individuals who compare Mediterraneans -- especially Sicilians -- to mulattoes; who constantly imply Mediterraneans are inferior (despite their own lack of achievements); who believe that every fault in Northern European societies can be attributed to the Jews, whereas with Mediterraneans this is not the case; who suggest Mediterraneans don't belong on lands they discovered and which are named after their explorers; and so forth and so on.

Then these dregs have the gall to talk about an alliance? These greasy, in many cases non-Nordic and/or racially mixed, extremists want to forge an alliance with Southern Europeans? Ain't gonna happen.

I will tell you what: Southern Europeans are better off with Jews, Blacks, Celts, whatever -- any group showing respect for them and dealing with them on equal terms. The idea that these individuals with their own insecurities can launch attacks against Southern Europeans and then expect help in whatever goals they wish to attain is false.

Southern Europeans had better avoid alliances with these types. Southern Europeans had better disengage from their forums, or else work to subvert them. Southern Europeans are better off with people who will respect them and show a level of class.

Southern Europeans will not collaborate with Nordicists or White Nationalists. Southern Europeans will have nothing to do with these lowly elements among those of European descent (although many are in fact mixed). Southern Europeans can survive without them, and watch in amusement as their societies fall into the very decadence which they accuse others of.

[Graeme]

I do not feel as strongly as you about those want-to-be Nordics. They do seem to cast their nets wide to include everyone with pinker skin as Nordic with that catch all Nord-ish rubbish. You are either Nordic or not, there's no inbetween with me.

I have trouble accepting that the ancient Kelts let alone the modern day, formerly Keltic speaking people belong to the Nordid group. The great majority of red heads come from dark haired populations. These Kelts were central Europeans of mixed Alpine caucasoid group. Red hair and a white non ruddy skin have nothing to do with the depigmentation process which is a reduction of the amount of melanin produced by the melanocytes. Red hair is caused by a different type of pigment chemically different from melanin. The whole seaboard of Europe was occupied by Meds before the non dark haired types came from the East, who arrived already partially mongolised. It is the Meds who gave them their caucasoid facial and skeletal features.

If they want their own areas free of Meds or Alpines maybe they should leave the seaboard countries and head inland to somewhere in Russia, which they named anyway, and where their kinfolks are. After all they do have more in common with Finnic speakers and other Uralic speakers genetically than with straight, archetypal caucasians who are Meds.

My views have not been well received in Skadi, but reading the unsubstantiated propaganda directed against Meds is like the literal tarring of my genetic origins by lumping Meds with mixed race persons or even Arabic or Turkic speakers which is offensive to me. I have heard their hypotheses and it is time to prove it or crawl away because I will "stomp" on them. How many photos of extraneous caucasoid types, who are not European, are they going to post to endeavour to prove their black or semitic origins hypotheses of Meds. DNA of Meds has been proven to be less non European than those of the Northern types. The Saami are 50% caucasian and 50% mongoloid, the Finns, Swedes etc are more caucasoid, but still mongoloid. Who is fooling whom here? They are not going to get any assistance from me.

[Melnorme]

Graeme said:

The whole seaboard of Europe was occupied by Meds before the non dark haired types came from the East, who arrived already partially mongolised. It is the Meds who gave them their caucasoid facial and skeletal features.

Heh. That's a lot of conjecture, Graeme.

[Graeme]

It is actually an hypothesis. This is some support of that.

The Northern Europeans do have more East Asian genes than other Europeans: Y chromosome, mtDNA.

Northern Europeans like the Scandinavians are skeletally (the skull etc) like Meds. The differences eg height is not important with todays diets and environments.

There are more red heads in dark haired populations. Red hair is not due to melanin, but blond hair is.

The Keltic speaking populations did exist in Central Europe. The best examples of Keltic culture are in Austria/Switzerland both places later populated by German speakers after the demise of Keltic culture and language.

Present day populations of Central Europe are mainly Alpines.

Uralic languages do come from the boundary area between Europe and Asia.

There is no geographical separation between the steppes of mongolia and the heartland of Russia. Southern Europe is mountainous and accessed more easily by sea.

Caucasoids and mongoloids have been moving back and forth between north west Europe and to north east Asia. Hence mixed race people in west China and Turkic countries.

Old, land, trade routes linking Asia with Europe via Central Asia.

The phenotypes of Northerners displaying mongolian like features are not uncommon eg Icelander
Bjork, the little Norwegian man who won World Idol.

It may be conjecture to you, but someone once said "If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it is a duck". There is more historic and circumstancial evidence of the link of northern Europe to east Asia than the oft quoted black/Arab links with the South.

[Tautalos]

galvez said:

Southern Europeans will not collaborate with Nordicists or White Nationalists.

Speak for yourself, not in the name of all Southern Europeans. In my opinion, every Southern European with self respect prefers to unite with his/her racial and ethnic relatives of Northern Europe, inspite of some hate mongers that exist in both sides.

[geirr]

Graeme said:

I do not feel as strongly as you about those want-to-be Nordics. They do seem to cast their nets wide to include everyone with pinker skin as Nordic with that catch all Nord-ish rubbish. You are either Nordic or not, there's no inbetween with me.

You have unique style I'll give you that, personally I find this med vs nordicist war rather tedious. I actually respect northern Europeans including Russians who the vast majority are not nordicist and who mostly don't have anything against southern Europe. the hardcore WNs just seem to be petty crims, childish thugs and porn actresses, hardly a threat to western civilisation. Graeme, I haven't been able to get into Skadi for some time now but there is no point posting there if you consider Skadi an 'inferior' forum. The reason why I don't post there is that I'm not interested in racial preservation and also a large number of the Skadi posters are just there for a giggle. It's not all life and death, it is possible to read Nordhammer's post and laugh or that guy who thinks he's Mussollini and just dismiss it as harmless fun. I don't mean to sound patronising but maybe you're taking all this nordicist nonsense a little too seriously.

[Praetor]

Collaboration? To do what?Perform a genocide of non-whites?Form a league of "racially aware" people that will not intermarry outside their race (or even their sub-race,I'd love to see such a rule)?Start an internet alliance against asians and/or africans? This whole thing is a big joke imho.

[alex221166]

Praetor said:

This whole thing is a big joke imho.

Absolutely. Most people don't give a damn about this stuff...

[Graeme]

Geirr wrote about respect. Respect has to be earned. The Northern Europeans as a whole haven't done too much to earn respect. The invention of dynamite or the Noble prize or Volvos perhaps? I visit Skadi irregularly; I find it boring and not entertaining at all. I was "accused" of being an Afrocentrist (though Benin and Zimbabwe are not given enough credit for African achievements) which I am not.

I do not see anyone as my relatives ethnically or racially. I consider myself a Med even though I am more Alpinic. I would have preferred Atlanto Med, but I am too heavily built, like a rugby player. I believe in living outside ethnic or racial boundaries. Having said that I see nothing wrong in Sweden or Italy or England staying as caucasian, European countries. I don't accept multi culturism or multi ethnicism because it clouds and destroys the origins and history of each country. The japanese did not make Greece. Nigeria has not contributed lots of literature and music to England. I live in Australia and everyone I know well happens to be Anglo-Saxon and the "enemy" I suppose. Seriously the Nordicists are not representative of Northern Europeans, Americans, Australians or any other group. Not doing anything about racists is passively collaborating with hatred. I prefer to harry and test them.