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Post by topdog on Apr 10, 2005 1:01:51 GMT -5
We will discuss more about this when you return, I look forward to it.
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Post by Igu on Apr 10, 2005 14:04:35 GMT -5
Sure, blame the Afro-Americans for calling you Arab when its North Africans who call themselves Arabs? -Most north africans are arabs, it's normal that most of them call themselves arab. and a minority calls it self Berber and fights for the preservation of its culture. -But you, you say that the original berbers were Black and then got whitewashed by arabs. a very silly statement. -Afro-americans constitute a social class, not really a community. and I'm not interested in low class sub-cultures. -this said, I also believe that sub-saharan africans have no heritage, they're interesting to me just because they are a good example of primitive people, just like our ancestors.
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Post by SensoUnico on Apr 10, 2005 23:00:11 GMT -5
igu, this is quite a statement: "this said, I also believe that sub-saharan africans have no heritage, they're interesting to me just because they are a good example of primitive people, just like our ancestors" Care to elaborate. Personally speaking as a European, I consider all cultures and past civilisations mine whether Indus Valley, Sumerian, Chinese, Mayan, Egyptian, Benin and all the rest.
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Post by topdog on Apr 11, 2005 1:59:57 GMT -5
-Most north africans are arabs, it's normal that most of them call themselves arab. and a minority calls it self Berber and fights for the preservation of its culture. So why are mentioning anything about AAs being wrong for calling your prople Arabs?[insert rolling eyes here] Is lying an Igu thing or a Berber thing. I never said any such thing. African-Americans as a community make up 12% of the US population, so yes, we do exist and not as some social class. What do you know about African-Americans? Same can be said for Berbers, using your logic. Only an idiot with a superiority complex is dumb enough to believe what you believe.
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Post by SensoUnico on Apr 11, 2005 3:08:51 GMT -5
So why are mentioning anything about AAs being wrong for calling your prople Arabs?[insert rolling eyes here] Is lying an Igu thing or a Berber thing. I never said any such thing. Same can be said for Berbers, using your logic. Only an idiot with a superiority complex is dumb enough to believe what you believe. Because it is extremely offensive. I am not Berber and I am offended. Name calling does nothing to improve your standing and makes your points invalid. Insults again. Can we get back to topic which is not about Americans but about haplogroups in NE Africa.
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Post by Igu on Apr 11, 2005 3:13:29 GMT -5
So why are mentioning anything about AAs being wrong for calling your prople Arabs?[insert rolling eyes here] Is lying an Igu thing or a Berber thing. I never said any such thing. African-Americans as a community make up 12% of the US population, so yes, we do exist and not as some social class. What do you know about African-Americans? Same can be said for Berbers, using your logic. Only an idiot with a superiority complex is dumb enough to believe what you believe. -Do you use your brain sometimes? I'm not telling you that Afrocentrists call Berbers Arabs, You say worse than that:you say that white berbers are fake Berbers! Should I remind you your posts in egypt search? should I remind that you say the same thing about egyptians in dodona? you don't even know that most J haplogroup in north africa is predominantly neolithic and not arab and you want to discuss about my people's origins? You poor afronuts want to have the same heritage as whites but you'll never, life's unjust ! -I still think you can't use your brain, therefore I have to remind you that I was not speaking about Arab north africans< (Maybe you did not notice that!) -My heritage is limited to what my ancestors (the Berbers) have done, and yet, they have done nothing, neverthless I like my own's culture as it is, I'll die for its preservation and I don't want to create an artificial history as you afronuts do. Th problem with you is that you want the Black=White everywhere and in every field, your problem is the white man not your own destiny, as I said in another post, if the white man did not exist you'd be happy in your shit., you'd like the taste of it. White achievments include most well known civilizations, why not ripping off some? isnt it? why not call some primitive organized socities in sub-saharan African "civilizations"? My ass is also a brain! Most whites don't identify with other's white achivements: an Iraki won't feel proud of what greeks have done, and a french won't fell great of what egyptians have done. the only ones who take race into consideration are the neo-nazis, and you are just a fade copy of you masters, you act the same, wherever you see a black who have done something you are proud! that's ridiculous! poor cultureless Afro-stealers! As I wrote above, my people (I have one unlike you ... you just have a race!) have nothing special to be proud of, even (because of the isolation) some subsaharans have more noble heritage than Berbers, but WTF, I don't feel inferior like you, I don' want to create a civilization with god or without him, I just like My people and my my culture as it is , with its stupidities (superstitions, mistakes, betrayals) and with its beauties, No fake creations. I just find your behaviour pathetic, Every time you write a post in this forum, you just remind me that you feel VERY VERY inferior towards whites. Sincerely, I'm happy not to be like afro-americans or any group that is cultureless and identifies with race not with culture, "hi bra, hi nigga?" isn't it? Afroamericans and at a lesser extent south africans are a product of Whites, without them they woudn't be what they are: stupid race obsessed people. I call them white's slaves. I have black friends (congolese, Ruwanda and cameroun) and they are VERY different of whites' slaves, they just admit the superiority of western civilization and none of them tries to identify with any black whose not related to them culturally, I speak very interesting subjects with them : their beliefs, their traditions, they know it's primitive but they accept what they are, unlike whites' slaves. Just to conclude: I have a culture and a people, you just have a race to stick to!
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Post by topdog on Apr 11, 2005 3:14:34 GMT -5
Because it is extremely offensive. I am not Berber and I am offended. Name calling does nothing to improve your standing and makes your points invalid. Insults again. Can we get back to topic which is not about Americans but about haplogroups in NE Africa. I never metioned anything about African-Americans in this thread, Igu did and I was responding to him, not you so mind your business. All of my posts except those to Igu was about this topic.
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Post by Igu on Apr 11, 2005 3:17:15 GMT -5
igu, this is quite a statement: "this said, I also believe that sub-saharan africans have no heritage, they're interesting to me just because they are a good example of primitive people, just like our ancestors" Care to elaborate. Personally speaking as a European, I consider all cultures and past civilisations mine whether Indus Valley, Sumerian, Chinese, Mayan, Egyptian, Benin and all the rest. I have elaborated in my answer to Charlie.
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Post by topdog on Apr 11, 2005 3:23:44 GMT -5
-Do you use your brain sometimes? I'm not telling you that Afrocentrists call Berbers Arabs, You say worse than that:you say that white berbers are fake Berbers! Should I remind you your posts in egypt search? should I remind that you say the same thing about egyptians in dodona? you don't even know that most J haplogroup in north africa is predominantly neolithic and not arab and you want to discuss about my people's origins? You poor afronuts want to have the same heritage as whites but you'll never, life's unjust ! I never said anything about Berbers in egyptsearch about white berbers being fake berbers. I've always maintained that Berbers vary. And I do have a heritage whether your brain wants to register that or not. If you acknowledge that ancestors have done nothing(?) why are you talking about sub-Saharans having done nothing? African-American culture isn't artificial its real. Insert rolling eyes for insignificant filler spam. **SIGH****, sounds like someone has hurt feelings. Your incoherent ramblings amounts to nothing Igu. You obviously have a inferiority complex because since you acknowledge **YOURSELF** that your people have done nothing, you feel a need to put down other people[African-Americans] to make yourself feel like something.
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