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Post by countlessivor on Jan 27, 2006 20:02:45 GMT -5
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Post by oubit on Jan 27, 2006 20:11:52 GMT -5
Norwegian? (Nordid-Atlantid)
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Post by Sym on Jan 27, 2006 20:54:38 GMT -5
Norwegian? (Nordid-Atlantid) Isn't that rather redundant? I thought (north) Atlandids were just a darker haired variant of the Nordic sub-race... Do people on this forum just make up their own terms? |
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Post by asdf on Jan 27, 2006 21:03:04 GMT -5
Yeah, it is.
Basically.
Atlantid doesn't mean North-Atlantid, actually. No relation necessarily at all. It means Atlanto-Mediterranid with Nordid influence or with some admixture. Or at least that's what I thought it meant. Nordid + Atlantid to me is a redundant formula, as you suggested.
By the way, North-Atlantid referes to a type that's almost Scando-Nordid, but with dark hair. In other words, a Nordid that picked up darker pigmentation by being near Mediterranids. It's not the most concrete thing, but it, like Atlantid, is a good local or individual descriptive term.
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Post by asdf on Jan 27, 2006 21:05:05 GMT -5
But it doesn't = Atlantid. And there seems to be this huge confusion with North-Atlantids and Paleo-Alantids - that they're subraces of a single "Atlantid" type. Not at all. North-Atlantid is a Nordid type named after the North Atlantic, and Paleo-Atlantid is a Cromagnid type called that because of its UP origin. Then that Nordish site came up and made its own definitions, which I think are just Nordid>Atlanto-Mediterranid for North-Atlantid, and for Paleo-Atlantid for Nordid<Atlanto-Mediterranid, which is fine, but they don't mean the same thing as Lundman's orignal terms. Well, North-Atlantid does basically. But not Paleo-Atlantid. I mention that because then the term"Atlantid" popped up, which confused things even more. Lundman used it to mean several low-skulled western types. Basically the Western dolichocephals: paleo-atlantid, berid, scando-nordid, etc. But the people on this forum mean, what I'd said earlier. Personally, I would say "Western Nordomediterranid", or just explain that they're a Nordoid Atlanto-Mediterranid. I think it's particularly strange that Eastern Nordomediterrandis are also termed Atlantid. |
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Post by countlessivor on Jan 27, 2006 21:16:26 GMT -5
Please, guys, try to stay on-topic. Does anyone else agree with classification and ethnicity or maybe you have any other opinions?
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Post by countlessivor on Jan 31, 2006 20:56:48 GMT -5
What about this guy? Is he of the same type as the one posted above?   |
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Post by oubit on Feb 1, 2006 8:44:32 GMT -5
I guess that's his son (you?)
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Post by countlessivor on Feb 1, 2006 17:49:25 GMT -5
It's me here who should ask questions. I'm waiting for classification and ethnicity. And I have only 1 answer so far.  |
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Post by Platypus on Feb 2, 2006 5:46:20 GMT -5
unless they're related
1st guy Polish
2nd guy Swedish.
the 1st guy could actually come from many countries in europe.
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Post by quarryman on Feb 2, 2006 12:20:00 GMT -5
I don't think the 2nd guy is Swedish (too narrow face and long nose).
Guy no 1 is of the same kind of Dinaricized Nordid type as the Scottish singer Rod Stewart. I agree with Platypus that he could fit in many places.
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Post by countlessivor on Feb 2, 2006 16:04:22 GMT -5
Hmmm. First North-Atlantid, now you say he is Dinarcized. Actually I don't see anything Dinarid about him. Rod Stewarts' nose is different - especially in profile   it's little bit longer and not so narrow. Too narrow face? Isn't narrow face is a Nordid trait?  What about Corded type? Any thoughts? |
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Post by Platypus on Feb 2, 2006 16:30:13 GMT -5
yes the first guy looks bit like Rod Stewart or Irish actor Richard Harris, nevertheless he also reminds me of Pope John Paul 2 (Profile) he is a generalized Nordid,
I only visited Malmo one evening so I dont know much about Sweden, but the 2nd guy Is how I imagine Swedes, but also Finns, Baltics and some Russians.
I think both guys are predominatly Nordic. with minor variants.
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