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Post by Springa on Jan 2, 2006 10:25:41 GMT -5
It's funny to us Brazilians how a lot of people have misconceptions about what Brazilians look like. I mean, even the notion that Brazilians have a distinct look sounds funny to me. But it's understandable, as a lot of people here also think that Germans are all blond, Arabs are all Arafat clones and so on. Foreigners forget that this country wasn't only founded by Portuguese colonialists and slaves, but also by immigrants from all over the world. A German friend of mine who lived here for a while said that he used to hear that Brazil was a melting pot of all races, so he thought all Brazilians were a homogeneous mix of all these races. When he arrived he was surprised to find out that we do indeed have all races AND all combinations of them. Another friend of mine from Chile said he likes it here because everyone looks different, while in Chile he sees millions of people who look like him (mestizo) every day. Adriana Lima is what i thought all brazilians used to look like. I thought everyone was a mix of black and white with light brown skin, grey-green eyes and curly black hair. That would have been very hot though. Too bad it doesn't exist in huge numbers(or even if it does its not the preferred look in the media).
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Synthesis
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Post by Synthesis on Jan 2, 2006 10:26:28 GMT -5
But is "Gisele" a common Brazilian/Portuguese one? Or is it a German variant of "Gisela"?
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Post by Springa on Jan 2, 2006 10:45:44 GMT -5
It's not really accurate to say she's part of a "Racial Minority" here, because first of all, German is not a race, so her race is "white" or "caucasian", which can't really be considered minorities here. The separation between north-european and "latino" doesn't really exist in Brazil and the notions of black, white and mixed are also different than in the U.S. According to official figures (which more or less agree with the common people's notion of race here), "whites" (again, in the Brazilian definition) are a little bit more than half the population, while blacks are about 10% and mixed folks in general are pretty much the rest. Of course, many of the "whites" are actually lighter, richer or crazier mixed folks, but even then, you can't really call whites in Brazil a "minority". It probably makes no sense to Americans, but that's how it goes here. "White Brazilians" in Brazil is a group that is supposed to be diverse enough to encompass everything from: Taffarel, former goal keeper of the national football (soccer) team. to Alexandre Frota, former soap opera actor who became a porn star. They're not seen as members of different races here. Pretty much like Ice-T and Wesley Snipes are both considered black in the U.S. even looking totally different. its a shame that the racial minority in brazil is the most desired aesthetic
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Post by Springa on Jan 2, 2006 10:51:26 GMT -5
It's pretty common in Brazil through france. French sounding names are considered "chic" for women in Brazil, specially by lower middle class and poor people, who even make up their own "french" sounding names, just by putting an "e" instead of an "a" on the end of their daughter's names. They even go as far as ending the names with an "i", because it sounds the same as an "e" to us, like in the case of the model Isabeli Fontana. I think it's ridiculous, I think Isabela, Mariana and Carolina sound a lot better than Isabele, Mariane and Caroline for Brazilian women. I don't know about Portugal though, they seem to stick with their/our own names. But is "Gisele" a common Brazilian/Portuguese one? Or is it a German variant of "Gisela"?
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Post by metrosensual on Jan 2, 2006 10:55:46 GMT -5
Isn't she the product of escaped Nazis from Germany like Raquel Zimmerman (another Brazilian-German top model)? The salon I work in was contracted to the 'Giles' show at London Fashion Week (because we're so good ) and I was shocked to find that Raquel is one racist b itch. If you're into the fashion world (like myself) you'll know her infamous quote to Vogue 'I'll never go on the runway after a black model, I must go on before her'. Plus, you could see her trying to avoid Oluchi Onweagba (a black model) backstage. From what I've heard, Gisele has the same attitude.
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Post by Springa on Jan 2, 2006 11:40:33 GMT -5
I'm not really into the fashion world and I don't know who Raquel Zimmerman is. Do you know for a fact that she's the product of escaped nazis? I mean, there are millions of Brazilians with German ancestry, and I'd supposed that less than 1% of them are "products of escaped nazis". Many are racists, just like any other large group of people, but it doesn't neccessarily mean their grandpas were in the SS. I mean Doctor Mengele ran away to Brazil and actually lived near Sao Paulo for decades undercover, and I'm sure some others did the same, but it's not like we received thousands of former nazis. Most Germans arrived in Brazil in the 19th and early 20th centuries, so they didn't really have the opportunity to be nazis in Germany (many did join their local Brazilian chapters of the nazi party in the 30's though). I don't think Gisele is racist in this manner, this kind of thing (out in the open) can destroy a person's reputation in Brazil. I mean, a lot of people are racists in this country, but nobody admits it or shows it publically. This country is all about hypocrisy and fake smiles. Isn't she the product of escaped Nazis from Germany like Raquel Zimmerman (another Brazilian-German top model)? The salon I work in was contracted to the 'Giles' show at London Fashion Week (because we're so good ) and I was shocked to find that Raquel is one racist b itch. If you're into the fashion world (like myself) you'll know her infamous quote to Vogue 'I'll never go on the runway after a black model, I must go on before her'. Plus, you could see her trying to avoid Oluchi Onweagba (a black model) backstage. From what I've heard, Gisele has the same attitude.
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Post by Educate Me on Jan 2, 2006 11:48:35 GMT -5
in brazil making a racist comment will hurt you very bad, last year during a football/soccer match, an argentine player made a racist comment, and he had to stay 2 days in prison.
Of course, Brazilians dont mind so much other tourists/foreigners behaving bad there, but when an argentine behaves bad there, they like to make an example of us.
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Post by harri on Jan 2, 2006 14:09:11 GMT -5
If that overcoat pic is pre-surgery, then that's the best money spent on a nosejob, ever.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Jan 2, 2006 14:15:57 GMT -5
Yeah, she doesn't have to worry about equal pay now that she looks like a man.
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Post by metrosensual on Jan 2, 2006 14:21:28 GMT -5
I still think she's stunning lol.
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