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Post by anodyne on Jan 20, 2006 17:15:14 GMT -5
He's making it but that doesn't mean he's good at what he does. What does mean is that he found a niche. He's a bad actor and a goofy director. His popularity is based more on his music and who he casts in his film that appeals to a black audience (his niche). There was an actor, whose name I forget, who worked with Ice Cube when he directed him in a film and he ripped on Ice Cube's directing skills. In other words, he had no ability. It was on IFC... that dinner with Faverau show. I forget the exact title of the show. I never heard of Cubevision. I assume its his production company. I tink I'll check that company out. I'm curious to see what type of films they'll be putting out. He was good in Boys-N-Tha-Hood... but then again it wasn't such a stretch from his real life. If he can play a role that's very out of character for him and do it well then I'd reconsider whether he's a bad actor or not. Mayne you drinking that Haterade really really strong aren't you? Cube is a black man making it legitimately, its how the black man gets criticized for being a criminal on hand, then gets put under an even bigger microscope when he is making it legitimately, i guess its a catch 22 thing isn't it? To be a "playa hata" you have to be jealous of the guy you're hating but I'm not jealous of the man. Up to this point he hasn't shown himself to be a talented actor. If he played a role that is out of character to his real persona, and he did well, then I'd recondsider. For example, if he played a flamboyantly gay character and I was convinced he was flaming then I'd change my tune. It has nothing to with being black. It has to do with acting skills. Lets be honest. If he wasn't a famous rapper would he have been cast in any film? He attracts a selected audience. And the past few years he's moved into directing, which sort of proves my theory that anyone can do it when given the chance and provided with a cinematographer that is at the least mediocre. If you want to talk about a good black actor (and I know people will mock me for this but its true). You should bring up Will Smith. He's one of the few actors who learned how to act while having a show (which of course was given to him because of name recognition). He was pretty terrible when "The Fresh Prince of Bel Air" first aired but he learned rather quickly. Also, this dude on "Lost": Harold Perrineau www.imdb.com/name/nm0674782/I especially liked him in "Smoke." It has one of my favorite endings. He's a good actor. Ice Cube isn't.
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Post by aroundtheworld on Jan 20, 2006 18:49:00 GMT -5
Will Smith rocks. he is really a good actor. He's funny and can be somber and serious. My favorite small part from him was when he did a cameo in Jersey Girl and was at an agency sitting in the lobby with Ben Affleck talking about his children and their importance in life. Really good delivery.
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Post by anodyne on Jan 20, 2006 20:08:29 GMT -5
I haven't seen Jersey Girl. I hate Kevin Smith with a passion. Seriously, he sucks. I'm not "playa hatin,' "though. His films lack depth and resort to cheap gags. Watch how his career goes down hill now that he can't work the Jay and Silent Bob characters into his films (well, at least he said he'd stop doing that).
However, "Clerks" was a good film.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Jan 21, 2006 11:40:59 GMT -5
Changing skin color isn't going to make a person look one race or another. Albinos prove that. It is weird though to see people with huge Caucasian noses combined with dark skin. And the reverse, people with broad Negroid noses with light skin.
That said, those people look ridiculous. Especially the black people turned white. At least the white people turned black look like they could be a real South Asian race or something.
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Post by eufrenio on Jan 21, 2006 11:45:13 GMT -5
is a black man making it legitimately, its how the black man gets criticized for being a criminal on hand, then gets put under an even bigger microscope when he is making it legitimately, i guess its a catch 22 thing isn't it? What do you think of Ice Cube's hit song called "Black Korea"? www.lyricsstyle.com/i/icecube/blackkorea.html[Ice Cube] Everytime I wanna go get a f*ckin brew I gotta go down to the store with the two oriental one-penny countin motherf*ckers that make a nigga made enough to cause a little ruckus Thinkin every brother in the world's out to take So they watch every damn move that I make They hope I don't pull out a gat and try to rob they funky little store, but bitch, I got a job ("Look you little Chinese motherf*cker I ain't tryin to steal none of yo' shit, leave me alone!" "Mother-f*ck you!") Yo yo, check it out So don't follow me, up and down your market Or your little chop suey ass'll be a target of the nationwide boycott Juice with the people, that's what the boy got So pay respect to the black fist or we'll burn your store, right down to a crisp And then we'll see ya! Cause you can't turn the ghetto - into Black Korea
"I do f*ck you!"I find it pathetic. You can´t blame a Korean shop-keeper for being wary of Blacks. Ice-Cube should blame his brothers for their bad behaviour. In other words, if you don´t want to be judged poorly on account of the behaviour of your community, raise your standards and blame your own people until they improve.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Jan 21, 2006 11:47:12 GMT -5
Yeah, let's combat racism with more racism!
I'm gonna burn down yo sto', you slanty-eyed fish-eatin' chop-suey muthafukka!
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 22, 2006 4:46:57 GMT -5
All of this Ice Cube hating, lol. You guys have no idea how some blacks are treated when they walk into a Korean corner store. Most of these Koreans live in black neighborhoods, getting prosperous off of black money, yet treat black people like second class citizens and criminals when we walk ino their stores to spend *OUR* money. I don't believe in violence and crime against Koreans, but i find it funny that you all bash Ice Cube for his extremism in his song and say nothing about Korean racism against blacks.
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Post by MC anunnaki on Jan 22, 2006 7:07:21 GMT -5
The only familymember that looks off is the black mother, the rest of the black family don't look weird to me, at least not in that quick preview. The white family look more like south Asians, but then again, it's in America, where pigmentation is pretty much the only thing that matters.
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Post by aroundtheworld on Jan 22, 2006 8:45:55 GMT -5
Changing skin color isn't going to make a person look one race or another. Albinos prove that. It is weird though to see people with huge Caucasian noses combined with dark skin. And the reverse, people with broad Negroid noses with light skin. That said, those people look ridiculous. Especially the black people turned white. At least the white people turned black look like they could be a real South Asian race or something. Mike that's not quite true. The black kid looks perfectly like a cute white boy. I think one of the main reasons the White father looks Indian is b/c of his already "Indian" features in his curved thin nose that is typical in North India/Iran.
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Post by jam on Jan 22, 2006 9:56:27 GMT -5
"Nick" and "Rose" looks convincing to me.
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Post by anodyne on Jan 22, 2006 12:01:54 GMT -5
They opened their stores in dangerous neighborhoods. It would be common sense to be wary. If it upset blacks so much then why keep shopping at the store.
They provide a needed service. The benefit goes two ways.
If it was a white guy wrote a song about beating up Koreans you would say typical white racism. In fact, the white song writer would be considered persona non grata in our society. His only fans would be at stormfront.
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 22, 2006 12:15:03 GMT -5
They opened their stores in dangerous neighborhoods. It would be common sense to be wary. If it upset blacks so much then why keep shopping at the store. I agree, I think my people should get together and boycott people that exploit us, but at the same time, if a neighborhood is soo bad, why put a business there? If its so bad, why don't *THEY* get out? A need service they can shove up their anus if they treat my people like second class citizens and criminals. I happen to know why Ice Cube wrote that song and it was for the reasons I mentioned above, Koreans treating blacks like criminals when they walk into their stores to buy something.
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Post by anodyne on Jan 22, 2006 12:57:59 GMT -5
They don't exploit blacks. They saw a market and moved in. Most of these Korean store owners live below their means just to make a profit. It's actually expensive to open a store in the ghetto because of the risks involved.
But if you want to boycott it's your right to do so but...
after a few months the blac community would be asking them to come back. If there were blacks who could pull it off they would have done so by now by out competing the Korean store owners.
Jamaicans have a high rate of owning businesses in African- American communities and they're not liked either and for the same reasons.
The skills and habits are lacking in most in the black community for successful competition with Jamaicans and Koreans.
They live in areas with high crime rates. They're not exactly going to be socialable. Also, difference in culture creates a huge divide.
Well, Koreans are not exactly presented with the best that the black community has to offer and that works against the more respectable members of the community.
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 22, 2006 13:30:49 GMT -5
They don't exploit blacks. They saw a market and moved in. Most of these Korean store owners live below their means just to make a profit. It's actually expensive to open a store in the ghetto because of the risks involved. But if you want to boycott it's your right to do so but... after a few months the blac community would be asking them to come back. If there were blacks who could pull it off they would have done so by now by out competing the Korean store owners. I can't speak for those city slickers too much, but I do know that us country black folk have plenty of black owned businesses and a Korean exploiting us would not tolerated
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Post by alaina on Jan 22, 2006 14:39:52 GMT -5
Jamaicans have a high rate of owning businesses in African- American communities and they're not liked either and for the same reasons. Jamaicans are disliked for their general disdain for other W.I.'s and AA's.
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