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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 15, 2006 14:10:07 GMT -5
I know what it is, but lets not confuse black with Negroid. Some said Colin Powell isn't truly black based on his light skin coloration and that he must be a mulatto or quadroon, though he isn't. On the flip side, what really constitutes being mixed race? Does a person have two parents of different race to be mixed race? If not, using that logic, all people would be mixed race.
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Post by eufrenio on Jan 15, 2006 14:18:06 GMT -5
"Black", like "white" means different things in different countries. In some places one drop of black blood makes you black, in others, you need to be fully black to be called black. As for Collin Powell, he himself acknowledged he had Scottish ancestry. Mixed-race Jamaicans are very proud of being such.
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Post by gelaye on Jan 15, 2006 14:23:28 GMT -5
i believe that if you are mixed race (with black) you are not black you are mixed. I don't believe in the one drop rule. I wouldn't call myself black (although it is different in my circumstance as my phenotype isnt negroid).
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 15, 2006 14:41:08 GMT -5
"Black", like "white" means different things in different countries. In some places one drop of black blood makes you black, in others, you need to be fully black to be called black. As for Collin Powell, he himself acknowledged he had Scottish ancestry. Mixed-race Jamaicans are very proud of being such. I acknowledge having Native American ancestry, but does that make me mixed race?
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Post by eufrenio on Jan 15, 2006 14:50:04 GMT -5
"Black", like "white" means different things in different countries. In some places one drop of black blood makes you black, in others, you need to be fully black to be called black. As for Collin Powell, he himself acknowledged he had Scottish ancestry. Mixed-race Jamaicans are very proud of being such. I acknowledge having Native American ancestry, but does that make me mixed race? Yes, it does. And why don´t you acknowledge European ancestry as well? As an African-american you must have some, no matter how remote.
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Post by gelaye on Jan 15, 2006 14:56:12 GMT -5
i think if you have very slight mixed heritage, but not enough to show up in your phenotype, you are classified as black with amerindian and europid ancestry. that can classify as black
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 15, 2006 14:59:48 GMT -5
I acknowledge having Native American ancestry, but does that make me mixed race? Yes, it does. And why don´t you acknowledge European ancestry as well? As an African-american you must have some, no matter how remote. To be blunt, my mother is Black, Native-American and French and my father is African-American. I have no real recent European ancestry. But why should I identify as mixed race when the majority of African-Americans have some measure of non-African ancestry?
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Post by eufrenio on Jan 15, 2006 15:04:10 GMT -5
Well, because it´s part of what you are, and also part of the heritage of the social group you belong to. You can call yourself Black if that just means "American of mostly African descent". But you won´t be considered Black in the true sense anywhere else.
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 15, 2006 15:07:15 GMT -5
Well, because it´s part of what you are, and also part of the heritage of the social group you belong to. You can call yourself Black if that just means "American of mostly African descent". But you won´t be considered Black in the true sense anywhere else. Ok, but what about American whites with Native American and African ancestry, are they too also mixed race?
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Post by eufrenio on Jan 15, 2006 15:08:34 GMT -5
Well, because it´s part of what you are, and also part of the heritage of the social group you belong to. You can call yourself Black if that just means "American of mostly African descent". But you won´t be considered Black in the true sense anywhere else. Ok, but what about American whites with Native American and African ancestry, are they too also mixed race? Yes, of course. Many Americans claim Amerindian blood.
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 15, 2006 15:12:16 GMT -5
Ok, but what about American whites with Native American and African ancestry, are they too also mixed race? Yes, of course. Many Americans claim Amerindian blood. If thats true, why are white Americans allowed to get away with not being classified as mixed race but American blacks are not?
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Post by eufrenio on Jan 15, 2006 15:15:07 GMT -5
I don´t know why Whites with recent and manifest admixture are not classified as "mixed-race" in the USA. Perhaps they should, though it´s not as if they hide it today.BTW, I thought that the one-drop rule prevented Blacks from being classified as anything other than black.
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 15, 2006 15:21:50 GMT -5
I don´t know why Whites with recent and manifest admixture are not classified as "mixed-race" in the USA. Perhaps they should, though it´s not as if they hide it today.BTW, I thought that the one-drop rule prevented Blacks from being classified as anything other than black. that was the purpose of the one drop rule, to keep whites separated from blacks and to keep whites racially pure. Then again, no one in there entire world is pure anything.
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Post by annienormanna on Jan 15, 2006 15:22:52 GMT -5
Yes, of course. Many Americans claim Amerindian blood. If thats true, why are white Americans allowed to get away with not being classified as mixed race but American blacks are not? Leading question. You identify as a black man, yourself. What neighborhood did you grow up in? Gimmee your streets and we can talk if you want
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Post by eufrenio on Jan 15, 2006 15:24:54 GMT -5
Nobody is keeping you US Blacks today from identifying as mixed-race. Why not do it?
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