What Percentage Of Spaniards Do You Think Can Pass

[Toasty]

anodyne said:

Everyone's Irish on St. Paddy's day

NOT ME.

"On the seventh day the Lord rested, but before that he did, he squatted over the side of England and what came out of him... was Ireland"

Do you know what movie that quote is from??

[tonynatuzzi]

Hey Toasty I bet you don't know this one "So what is it that you wanted to tell me Dick ? That I am Canadian,Oh I am so sorry I feel your pain"

[anodyne]

toasty said:

anodyne said:

Everyone's Irish on St. Paddy's day

NOT ME.

"On the seventh day the Lord rested, but before that he did, he squatted over the side of England and what came out of him... was Ireland"

Do you know what movie that quote is from??

Gangs of New York

[DeLacroix]

Holy dog ! There are three dodonites who voted for, 100%! ;D, 90%, and 80%. As I know spain very well, my vote goes for 5% (some Basques, and Catalans).

[hooligan]

I get Welsh more than I do Irish, but have been mistaken for an Irishman before.

[hooligan]

Here's my pic...I've posted it here before and got Irish more than a few times.

[Drooperdoo]

Most of the statistics I read say that only 4% of Ireland is redheaded. I wonder how--in America, at least--that tiny 4% has come to be recognized as "the typican Irishman"?
Hell, I'll bet if you rounded up negroes in the United States or Britain, 4% would have red afros. Yet no one says that the average blackman is a redhead.
Truly strange.

P.S.--As to how many Spaniards could pass for Irish--- It's a misleading question. If you go to the western counties of Ireland and use those Irishmen who have the oldest dna, then about 75% to 80% could pass for Spaniards and vice-versa. Hell, look at Tyrone Power playing a bullfighter in Blood and Sand. He didn't require any make-up to play a Spaniard. He looked like one, naturally.

Likewise, Irish actor Gabriel Byrne moved to Spain as a young man and was routinely mistaken for a native. He related the anecdote on Johnny Carson's old talk show about how--because of his black hair, short stature and Mediterranean profile--the Spaniards addressed him as a native. When he answered them in his faltering Spanish, they didn't assume he was a foreigner, but rather a mentally-deficient Spaniard.
Here's Gabriel Byrne in The Three Musketeers, his facial hair making him look less French than Iberian.



And here's American actress Moira Kelly (both of whose parents are from Ireland). She has olive skin, black hair, brown eyes and thick Mediterranean eyebrows.



And what is a "dark Irish" thread without mainstay actor Colin Farrell?



* Of course, there will always be the silly racist, who says, "Yeah, but those aren't 'typical Irishmen'! Whereupon I can only retort, the Irish who look like these people have a hell of a higher statistic than the mere 4% who are redheaded. --The oldest Irish dna came from the west coast, where this type predominates, and it was this type that yielded the so-called Basque Y-chromosome. So it's no wonder that they are interchangeable with Iberians.

[hooligan]

Good points Droop. I mentioned here in an earlier thread that some folks have asked if I was Irish or Welsh and some people wanted to paint me as Northern European wanna be. I've seen fair and dark Spaniards in both North and South. Maybe because there aren't many Spaniards here in the states and people just assume that they all look like Antonio Banderas. One of my unlces is a dead ringer for Gabriel Byrne.

[Drooperdoo]

Hooligan,
You resemble the Irish type exemplified by actor John C. Reilly:



Or the crazed bounty-hunter from Raising Arizona:

[hooligan]

Some people have told me I look like John C. Reilly. There was a large Irish population in my home town and I used to run around with them quite a bit. one of my friend's father's was from around Galway (?) Bay and he had a coal black " Irishman's Afro" HA ! People sometimes are taken back when they hear me speak Spanish or learn my surname, strange because I always thought I looked like the average Iberian.

[Drooperdoo]

County Gallway is supposed to be the "darkest" county in Ireland. All of the western counties are more "paleolithic Irish" than the easterners, who have dna from Scandinavia.

So Ireland is a weird place--with blonde/blue-eyed people on one side of the island, and Colin Farrell/Moira Kelly-like people on the other side.

P.S.--The dna study that came out saying that the "original Irish" had Basque dna took samples from the "oldest population in Ireland," in Connaught. You can judge by this map how close County Gallway and Connaught are:

[hooligan]

Yeah, I've often wondered what ancient ethnic group I'd fall into. I'm 5'9, 158, thick chest, narrow feet, curly hair. The guys at my dojo say I'm a mean "hobbit". We are Basque on my mothers side.

[tonynatuzzi]

Hey Drooperdoo John C.Reilly is not pure Irish,he's also half Jewish which would explain the Jew Fro.

[hooligan]

Maybe in his case, but I posted earlier that I knew a family from Ireland and all the boys had "Fro's". How do you explain that ? The old man was straight from the Old Sod and his boys were first generation.

[Toasty]

tonynatuzzi said:

Hey Toasty I bet you don't know this one "So what is it that you wanted to tell me Dick ? That I am Canadian,Oh I am so sorry I feel your pain"

Is that from Liar Liar?