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Post by aeon on May 18, 2005 2:06:43 GMT -5
I know it's an old thread but while I was reading the forum on WWII (the same that Murphee posted) I found some interesting info about polish cavalry fighting against german tanks. For those who are interested: www.mapleleafup.org/forums/showthread.php?s=9add526baa43d3289d4647129a9c1793&threadid=3481&perpage=40&pagenumber=1War in Poland 1939 - false myths? ... ... 4) The Polish Cavalry attacked German tanks with sabres. ... ... Was Polish Cavalry attacking tanks with sabres?
This long-lived myth goes back to Krojanty on 1st September 1939. Two Squadrons of 18th Uhlan Cavalry Regiment (Col Mastalerz) attacked a German Infantry Battalion from behind with sabres. The assault was initially sucessful but suddenly German armour appeard. The Polish Cavalry tried to escape by continuing riding through the German lines but several cavalrymen were killed.
The following day German Minister of Propaganda Dr. Joseph Goebbles invited Italian journalists to the area and they were told that the stupid Poles had tried to assault tanks with sabres because they believed the tanks were made of paper (!).
This idiotic myth could easily be falsified by the fact that the Polish Cavalry had their own armoured cars, tanks and anti-tank guns. Polish cavalrymen did very well know what a tank was and how to fight them in a proper way.
It seems to be generally beleived that the Poles kept the horse mounted Cavalry because they did not understand that it was obsolete. That is wrong. The mechanization of the Polish Cavalry began in 1929 and it was planned that the whole Polish Cavalry should be mechanized by 1941. In the meantime they used horses since large quantities were available. Riding is quicker than marching and the Polish Cavalry could act as mounted Infantry.
The totally stupid myth about Polish Cavalry attacking German tanks with sabres is nothing but an insult to the brave Polish Cavalry.
Even Field Marshal Viscount Bernard Law Montgomery of Alamein bought this false myth. Do You?-------------------------------------------------------------------- Also this thread: forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=77163I have always suspected this story was invented.
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Post by aeon on May 18, 2005 2:34:03 GMT -5
I wonder whether there is much difference between Ukranians and Russians in physical appearance? If you happen to come across a Ukrainian nationalist, he will tell you that Russians are Mongols and Ukrainians are full-blooded Aryan Europeans. Differences do exist. In racial terms Russians are mostly a Nordic-East Baltid mix, while Ukrainians have Balkan affinities. But you should remember that Eastern Ukraine was reunified with Russia in the mid-17th century and most of Western Ukraine in the late 18th century, so intermixing has been there for centuries. Most people in East and Central Ukrainian cities are Russian or Russian-related. There are also hosts of Ukrainians in Russia. In my opinion, this imaginary portrait of King Yaroslav the Wise on a Ukrainian banknote from the 1990s is a good representation of the Ukrainian racial type: For some mysterious reason, however, Yaroslav became Russified on a more recent banknote:
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Post by Dean on May 19, 2005 20:17:52 GMT -5
finnish are even more closed for strangers. I saw a special on television about Finnish people. They rarely say "I love you"-- maybe a few times in their lifetimes. When someone is on the deathbed, then a Finn may tell the dying person that he or she loves them. This is so different than Greeks, and my Greek relatives, particulary my grandparents. When they saw me, they slobbered all over me with kisses and tears. We Greeks constantly use terms of endearment. I can't tell you how many times I've been called "Dinaki mou--my little Dino." When I was in the Netherlands, I found the Dutch to be very reserved. My friends and I had some difficulty engaging them in conversation. We were polite, not boisterous. When I was in Greece, my family and I had no problems making friends. Some people invited us to sleep at their houses upon meeting them for the first time.
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Post by zemelmete on May 20, 2005 3:13:22 GMT -5
I saw a special on television about Finnish people. They rarely say "I love you"-- maybe a few times in their lifetimes. When someone is on the deathbed, then a Finn may tell the dying person that he or she loves them. This is so different than Greeks, and my Greek relatives, particulary my grandparents. When they saw me, they slobbered all over me with kisses and tears. We Greeks constantly use terms of endearment. I can't tell you how many times I've been called "Dinaki mou--my little Dino." When I was in the Netherlands, I found the Dutch to be very reserved. My friends and I had some difficulty engaging them in conversation. We were polite, not boisterous. When I was in Greece, my family and I had no problems making friends. Some people invited us to sleep at their houses upon meeting them for the first time. I never in my life have said "i love you". It is too hard for me. I will say that only for very speacial person. Of course there are people which I love, but i'm not going to say them "I love you". Instead that I show love in other ways - for example in my attitude, in saying something nice etc.
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Post by Valery on May 20, 2005 3:32:02 GMT -5
For some mysterious reason, however, Yaroslav became Russified on a more recent banknote: thank you Aeon, it's very amusing
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Post by didibeladi on Dec 31, 2005 2:46:53 GMT -5
I will post some Russian ethnic terms and slurs that I am familiar with, and also some notes on correct meanings. The terms are in Unicode compliant Cyrillic font. The vowel that is stressed in Russian pronunciation has a ‘ after it. (m) masculine noun, (f) feminine noun, (n) neuter noun, (adj) adjective, (v) verb.
The neuter term dealing with Jews in Russian are åâðå’é (m), åâðå’éêà (f), åâðå’éñêèé (adj) “Jewish,” åâðå’éñòâî (n) “Jewry, Jews.” Some more pejorative and offensive terms having to do with Jews are:
æèä (m) yid, kike (this used to be a neutral term, but has acquired a negative meaning in Russian; it generally retains its neutral meaning in other Slavic languages); this term also refers to any stingy or greedy, miserly person
æèäî’âêà (f) female yid, female kike
æèäî’âñêèé (adj) Jewish
æèäîâíÿ’ (f) Jewry, yids, kikes (collective noun)
æèäîìàñî’í (m) Jew-mason, yid-mason (implies a secret conpsiracy involving Jews and freemasonry)
æèäîïðîäà’âåö (m) Jew-traitor
æèäîðâà’ (f) Jews, yids, kikes (collective noun)
æèäîôè’ë (m) Yidophile, someone who likes Jews
æèäîôè’ëèÿ (f) Yidophilia, love of Jews or Jewish culture
æèäÿ’ðà (m) Yid, kike
æèä ïî âåð¸’âî÷êå áåæè’ò - a rhyming phrase meaning “there’s a yid running along a tightrope,” and used by children to taunt young Jews
æèäè’òüñÿ/ïîæèäè’òüñÿ (v) to be like a Jew, to be greedy or miserly
æèäî’âèÿ (f) Israel, Jewland
æèäî’âñêàÿ ìî’ðäà (f) Jewface, Jew (male or female)
æè丒íîê (m) a young Jew, little Jew
ìàñî’í (m) Jew-mason, mason
áðèö (m) Jew, kike
åâðå’åö (m), åâðåè’í (m) pejorative terms derived from the standard term for a Jew
çÿ’ìà (m,f) Jew, kike
ìîðæ (m) Jew, kike
íîñà’í (m) Jew, the one with a big nose
ïàðõà’òûé æèä (m) thorougly a Jew, complete kike
ïåéñ (m) kike, the one with the forelocks
ïó÷åãëà’çåö (m) kike, the one with the goggle eyes
Ñà’ððà (f) Sarah, pejorative term for any Jewish female
þ’äà (m) Judas, Jew
Pejorative terms for people from the Caucasus include:
àáðå’ê (m) Caucasian; dishonest person, liar, thief, cheater (literally, a Caucasian armed horseman)
à’ðà (m) Caucasian
àðìÿ’øêà (mf) Armenian
àðìÿ’øêà â æî’ïå (or ïî’ïå) äåðåâÿøêà – vulgar phrase used by children to tease Armenian boys, “an Armenian with a piece of wood up his ass”
äæîðäæ (m) Georgian (a term influenced by the English word ‘Georgian’)
çâåðü (mf) Caucasian (literally, wild beast)
çâåðè’íåö (m) the Caucasian lands or republics (literally, zoo, animal house)
çâåð¸ê (m) Caucasian, little beast
êàöî’ (m, indeclinable) Georgian (from the Georgian word katso, the vocative form of the word katsi “man, person”)
ëèöî’ êàâêà’çñêîé íàöèîíà’ëüíîñòè (n) person of Caucasian nationality (believe it or not, this DOES have a pejorative connotation)
õà’÷èê (m) Caucasian (from a common Armenian name); this does NOT, as stated above, refer ONLY to Armenians however; it can refer to anyone from the Caucasus region
÷åðíîæî’ïûé (m) Caucasian, black-assed one (I have, however, seen and heard this being used to refer to black people as well and even to Turkic peoples from the eastern republics, but am not sure as to the correctness of that usage)
÷åðíîòà’ (f) Caucasians; Asians (literally, blackness)
÷¸’ðíûé (m) Caucasian; black person
øàøëû’ê (m) Caucasian (literally, shish-kebab)
ãðûçó’í (m) Georgian (literally, rodent)
àçèà’ò (m) Asiatic, any Caucasian or Central Asian; barbarous person; a term used frequently by Lenin
ìóäàøâè’ëè (m indeclinable) stupid Georgian (from the Russian word ìóäà’ê fool, and the Georgian surname suffix –øâèëè)
Central Asians (Turkic peoples of the former USSR) are referred to in several ways:
à’çåð (m) Azeri, Azerbaijani
áàñìà’÷ (m) Central Asian (literally, Basmach, an anti-Soviet nationalist bandit active in the Civil War)
ìàìëþ’ê (m) Central Asian, Muslim (a term related to Mameluke)
ìàìå’ä (m) Central Asian, Muslim (from the name Mahmed or Muhammad)
òó’ðîê íåäîðå’çàííûé (m) Turk, Central Asian (literally, Turk not all the way killed)
óðþ’ê (m) Central Asian, person from the eastern republics
÷ó’ðêà (mf), ÷ó÷ìå’ê (m) - non-Russian, mainly from the eastern republics of the USSR, but could also be a Caucasian
Ukrainians I have seen referred to as:
õîõî’ë (m), õîõëó’øêà (f) from the practice of Ukrainian cossaks of shaving the head except for a top-knot
Ukraine itself is called õîõëÿ’íäèÿ (f) land of the top-knots
Poles are called:
ïî’ëàê (m) - Polack
Poland is called ïîëÿ’íäèÿ (f) land of the Polacks
ëÿõ (m) is an obsolete word for Pole, and I have not seen it used in a pejorative manner; it may be used as such however
The term ïøåê (m) I know for a fact is used by Byelorussians to refer to Poles, and also possibly by Ukrainians, but I have never seen it used in Russian
Baltic people (Latvians, Lithuanians and Estonians) are called
ïðèáà’ëò (m) – pejorative term for a Balt
the term Gans (Ãàíñ, m) derives from the German name Hans and is only used to refer to Germans, and NOT to Balts as stated above
Romanians and Moldavians are called
ìàìàëû’æíèê (m) eater of hominy/corn-mush
Italians I have seen called:
ìàêàðî’ííèê (m) maccaroni eater
àëî’ðåö (m), àëî’ðêà (f) wop, dago
A long time ago Germans were also called ôðèö (m) but I doubt that this word is in current usage. A citizen of Germany is today called pejoratively
áó’íäåñ (m) from the German prefix Bundes- (federal, as in Bundesrepublik Deutschland, Federal Republic of Germany).
ôýýðãå’øíèê (m) Citizen of Germany– from the Russian initials ÔÐÃ (Ôåäåðàòèâíàÿ Ðåñïóáëèêà Ãåðìàíèÿ, Federal Republic of Germany)
I have never come across the word êîëáà’ñíèê (sausage maker, pork butcher) used as a pejorative term for Germans, but this does not mean that it is not used in such a manner
The terms I’ve seen used for French people are
ëÿãóøà’òíèê (m) frog-man
ôðýí÷ (m) from the English word ‘French’
There are a number of terms used for black people, in addition to the ones already cited in this post:
áëýê (m) from the English word ‘black’
ãîëîâå’øêà (f) literally, charcoal
ãóòàëè’í (m) literally, black shoe polish
íåãàòè’â (m) ‘negative’
íåãðèòî’ñ (m)
òó’ìáà-þ’ìáà (f) tumba-yumba, a probably meaningless parody of African languages, a collective noun referring to Africans and blacks
óãî븒ê (m) literally, a piece of charcoal
÷åðíîìà’çûé (m) literally, smeared black
Asian people have been called:
âüåò (m) Vietnamese
äæàïà’í (m) Jap (from the English word ‘Japan’)
æåëòî’ê (m) Asian (literally, yolk)
èíäþ’ê (m) East Indian, person from India
êèòฒçà (mf) Chink, Chinese
ñàìóðà’é (m) Jap (literally, samurai)
óçêîï븒íî÷íûé (m) Mongolian, Asian (literally, narrow film, a reference to the shape of the eyes)
ÿïî’øêà (mf) Jap
Other terms include:
áðè’òèø (m) Brit, limey (from the English word ‘British’)
ëàòè’í (m) Latin-American
ïå’ðñèê (m) Persian, Iranian (I am not sure if this also refers to Tajiki Persians and Afghan Persians as well)
òóìàëà’é (m) Finn
ôè’íèê (m) Finn
þã (m) Yugoslavian (literally, south)
íàöìå’í (m) non-Russian (from the term íàöèîíàëüíîå ìåíüøèíñòâî, national minority)
ïîëóêðî’âêà (mf) half-breed
ïîëóôàáðèêà’ò (m) half-breed
Non-Russians, and especially Ukrainians, refer to Russians as:
êàöà’ï (m)
ìîñêà’ëü (m) Muscovite; Russian
Russia is referred to as êàöà’ïùèíà
These are the terms I have seen and am familiar with. I welcome your comments.
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