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Post by k5125 on Sept 25, 2004 13:29:35 GMT -5
When did it originate and what is its meaning?
Also, is it used when referring to Ashkenazic Jews? Or Sephardic Jews too?
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Post by Melnorme on Sept 25, 2004 13:54:04 GMT -5
It's because Jewish immigrants to the USA signed their names with circles rather than X's ( ie, crosses ). Circle = Kikel --> Kike
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Post by k5125 on Sept 25, 2004 13:56:39 GMT -5
Thats it? Wow. Why is it such a bad word then? Whats so offensive abou that?
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Post by Melnorme on Sept 25, 2004 13:59:07 GMT -5
Thats it? Wow. Why is it such a bad word then? Whats so offensive abou that? Nothing, but the intent is sometimes more important than the meaning. |
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Post by vela on Sept 25, 2004 20:29:27 GMT -5
When did it originate and what is its meaning? Just for informational purposes, you might wish to visit the Racial Slur Database www.rsdb.org/ |
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Post by Evan1211 on Sept 26, 2004 8:37:37 GMT -5
What an informative website.  |
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Post by vela on Sept 26, 2004 9:57:49 GMT -5
What an informative website. Think of it as a kind of psychological vaccination to develop your emotional immunity.  |
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Post by k5125 on Sept 26, 2004 11:42:33 GMT -5
"Hooknose Jews- In recognition of a common Hebrew facial characteristic."
See, this is what I am talking about. Here is a slur that is very racist and insulting and wrong, however its obviously true.
Many Jews do have hebrew characteristics, or semitic, or whatever you call them.
You know what I'm talking about.
Its like calling Chinese people "thin eyed"..
Its insulting, yet factually correct.
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Post by k5125 on Sept 26, 2004 11:45:16 GMT -5
If ashkenazic jews weren't of at least some middle eastern origin, then why did people even view them as such?
Ashkenazim have always been labeled by anti-semitic europeans as "swarty, hook nosed, Hebs or Yids".
Where did this stereotype come from if there was no original truth to it?
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Post by Solomon on Sept 27, 2004 23:37:33 GMT -5
^I'm Sephardic, which means I'm more Jewish/Hebrew than you. ;D I'm kidding of course. Yes, Ashkenazi Jews are of Middle Eastern origin, and have retained most of their original character. But there is no denying that Sephardim are more "Middle Eastern" than Ashkenazi Jews. |
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Post by k5125 on Sept 28, 2004 11:27:16 GMT -5
^I'm Sephardic, which means I'm more Jewish/Hebrew than you. ;D I'm kidding of course. Yes, Ashkenazi Jews are of Middle Eastern origin, and have retained most of their original character. But there is no denying that Sephardim are more "Middle Eastern" than Ashkenazi Jews. No doubt, you are correct.  |
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Post by Batesy on Oct 21, 2004 11:11:38 GMT -5
It is actually Yiddish for self-hating Jew.
And by the way, many Jews DO NOT have hooked noses. The number only falls at about 12%...more than the Anglo-Saxon average, but not in any way common.
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