Will Aztlan Rise????

[Ptolemy]

If most of you don't know by now, if one talks to any racially concious hispanic you will here a murmur of a "great" future nation called Aztlan.

Mexican Americans, who are mestizos primarily of Aztec, Pueblo, and Mayan descent, feel that the land encompassing the Southwestern United States was stoling from them by the Spanish, the United States and the white man, and one day they will reclaim it back and form a rebirth nation designated as Aztlan.

Spics feel they will reclaim the land by a demographic and political power takeover, not by an armed uprising. Hispanics feel they will soon be the majority in many states in the southwest and will simply vote the Anglos out of power, and then most other Anglos will voluntarily leave, or be assimilated into the larger mestizo population.

Academics have jump on the bandwagon too, as in this article:

Professor Predicts 'Hispanic Homeland'

aztlan.net/homeland.htm

Or if you want more info, one can go to this site:

La Voz de Aztlan (The Voice of Aztlan) at:

aztlan.net/ (in English)

If one would like to discuss Mestizo Nationalism, one can go to this website:

Brown Pride at:

boards.brownpride.com/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=social

[Melnorme]

It don't see it happening. Mexican-Americans aren't culturally or intellectually vigorous enough to support such a movement in massive numbers. They would prefer to be ruled by a white minority elite, just like in their homeland.

[Ptolemy]

The new Aztlan nation would have borders roughly represented on this map.




Aztlan Nationalist Propaganda:

[Ptolemy]

Melnorme said:

It don't see it happening. Mexican-Americans aren't culturally or intellectually vigorous enough to support such a movement in massive numbers. They would prefer to be ruled by a white minority elite, just like in their homeland.

Probably true, but they're arrogant bastards. ;D

[deuceswild]

An interview with Charles Truxillo:

www.issues-views.com/index.php/sect/2006/article/2082

Notice how Truxillo states that the creation of a Hispanic nation in the US southwest should be accomplished by "any means necessary". Makes you think doesn't it?

[asdf]

Don't most Mexicans nowadays come from the very south?

What claim have they? They already have the south to themselves, anyhow, don't they?

My mother's Mexican - well, she has dual citizenship. She just came here on vacation, met my father, and reluctantly stayed.

I don't see why this nation would ever exist. The Spanish in Mexico seem to be in complete control.

Anyway, Texas and California they'd have the least claim to, yet . . . .

I know two out of three Mexicans in the United States believe the US south-west belongs to them. And 70 or so percent of American feels the army should be used a short-term solution to the border problem. But big business is too powerful.

I don't really understand the problem, but just because of it, I don't want to live in this country, but I have no place else to go.

[izabet]

"Spics feel they will reclaim the land by a demographic and political power takeover, not by an armed uprising. Hispanics feel they will soon be the majority in many states in the southwest and will simply vote the Anglos out of power, and then most other Anglos will voluntarily leave, or be assimilated into the larger mestizo population."


...maybe 500 years from now...

[Anima Eternae]

They are horrible shells of their former selves. Those mestizos are NOT native americans, but mongrels.

[cocacola]

Anima said:

They are horrible shells of their former selves. Those mestizos are NOT native americans, but mongrels.

Dont forget you are one too.

[Anima Eternae]

cocacola said:

Dont forget you are one too.

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True, I am mixed race, but that's a ridiculous strawman. A half mexican half negro is also "mixed", but leagues below a noble eurasian.

Moreover, I am not claiming to be the native inhabitant of any land.

[BallisticaNervosa]

Aztlan, pff... a bunch of chicanos who speak Spanglish and try to recover a mythical land that wasn't even theirs to begin with. (Aztlan was the mythical North Island from where the Aztec supposedly originate. Southern USA is not a Northern Island as far as I know. If any, Southern USA belongs to “redskin” Amerindians, not Southern Mexico Aztecs and Mayas)

In Mexico both mestizos and whites dislike these pricks. They just give (more) bad fame to the country.

[BallisticaNervosa]

Ptolemy said:

The new Aztlan nation would have borders roughly represented on this map.

Goodness, no! I live in one of the Northern States of Mexico and it is within the dominion of "Aztlan". The North of Mexico was practically devoid of Amerindian presence, save for a few, not so numerous, tribes. These idiots should stick to the South of Mexico, not the North.

Like Melnorme said, here in Mexico (we) the white minority do “rule” over these people (I don’t like the word “rule”, but it is the closest one to describe what I want to say) but unlike the USA, there is not a clear “Us and Them” racial mentality, and thus conflicts rarely arise over “race related issues” (At least in my experience). In Mexico, unlike the USA, we all are Mexicans despite looks, and thus belong to a single unit that describes all the components of the country. Sure, there is a subconscious racial awareness in the work space and the daily life, but not everyone seems to notice it or give it too much thought. Although it is not a secret that many white Mexicans can be (and are) very racist.

[Kukul-Kan]

Don't most Mexicans nowadays come from the very south?

From the center actually. The Central portion of the country has been he most populated part of what’s now Mexico ever since Mesoamerican times because of its mild whether and soil of great agricultural value. Now everything from culture to the industry is pretty much centralized around Mexico City. That’s the reason most immigrants and now their descendants are to be found in the aforementioned city.

And yes, as BallisticaNervosa says, no-one in Mexico takes those loonies’ ideas seriously.

[gbloco]

Mexicans may have a lower average IQ than whites but the are not stupid. They know when they are on to a good thing, and once they have got into the US and have access to welfare they are hardly going to want to unify with Mexico.

[cocacola]

Anima said:

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True, I am mixed race, but that's a ridiculous strawman. A half mexican half negro is also "mixed", but leagues below a noble eurasian.

Moreover, I am not claiming to be the native inhabitant of any land.

'noble eurasian' You are messed.