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Post by Crimson Guard on May 8, 2005 17:27:40 GMT -5
The Human races involved seperatly...I do not believe in the Out of Africa theory,its flawed and moronic.
Sub-Sarharan Africa is far to hostile and uninhabitable to be the birth place of all Human kind.
Both Causasians and Mongoloids came from Asia and shared the same land and climate,then why do the Mogoloids have straight black hair,slanted eyes among other different traits that sets them apart from the Caucasoid race?! Where different Races for a reason..Climate has very little if anything to do with it.
Negroids came from Sub-Sarahan africa.
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Post by Crimson Guard on May 8, 2005 17:30:26 GMT -5
You know according to the Zulu's the black race was created by the Reptoid Race as slaves...Thats always interested me,perhaps Dinosaurs evolved into the humanoids called the Reptoids or Reptilian Race.That would be quite interesting if it was true..
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Post by Crimson Guard on May 8, 2005 17:34:45 GMT -5
Well we all mostve of dropped out someones else's ass or nut at some point or another.Never can tell!
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Post by lei.talk on May 16, 2005 23:56:06 GMT -5
perhaps this link will further your discussion: rafonda.com
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Post by Ponto Hardbottle on May 17, 2005 1:25:48 GMT -5
Strict OOA says that humans emerged in Eastern Africa. I'd expect them to have been medium brown skinned, with relatively unspecialized features, or perhaps a range. And this all depends upon which time frame one is talking about.
Chimps have a range of skin colors, even within one group. Their genetic diversity, even within one small group, is also higher than all humans worldwide.
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Post by lei.talk on May 18, 2005 2:36:35 GMT -5
"Harding et al. (in Evidence for Variable Selective Pressure at MC1R, Amerian Journal of Human Genetics, 66:1351-61, 2000) studied the MC1R gene, which influences the pigmentation of eyes, hair, and skin. They found that all Africans, and tropical indigenes in general, had an ancestral form of the gene, as also found in chimps: there were NO non-synonymous alleles. Thus, they contend that MC1R is tightly constrained in the tropics; this implies that any population radiating 'Out of Africa' would have been black. By contrast, there were several alleles, at various frequencies among European populations, accounting for the observed ubiquity of white skin, and substantial frequency of light hair and eye colors. These alleles could ONLY have arisen in populations that left the tropics a very long time ago, or never lived there to begin with. It would have taken a long time for the mutations in these alleles to occur and then rise to the observed distribution. Harding et al. calculate that at least a hundred thousand years, and possibly more than twice that long, might be required for one of these alleles to reach its current frequency. I defy any population geneticist to produce a credible model of genetic mutation and diffusion that turns an all-black African population into an all-white European population in the 50 to 70 thousand years that current Out of Africa models permit! And remember that those same afrocentrists claim the African radiation replaced the indigenous Eurasians, rather than interbreeding with them, so they can’t postulate acquisition of MC1R alleles from archaic Europeans, followed by selection to achieve fixation of euro-genes; that would be more like absorption than replacement! Moreover, they must, but can’t, explain why the putative African radiation in Asia produced an entirely different variety and set of alleles. The afrocentrists appeal to selection, but Harding finds evidence that MC1R has NOT been selected at Euro-specific alleles, though it has been tightly CONSTRAINED to the ancestral form in the tropics." from: rafonda.com/html/genetic_reality_of_race.html
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Post by Edwin on Jun 2, 2005 22:20:14 GMT -5
Two things:
1. It's entirely possible that the the Early Moderns were still quite hairy, so if they were hairy enough, they may well have had light skin underneath their coats. Ha!
2. The Neadertals were almost surely fair-skinned and fair-haired, being truly native to Europe, so if Cro-Magnids are
a. the descendants both of Early Modern and Neandertal ---or--- b. Neandertal somehow became Cro-Magnon
then one could say that Cro-Magnids, at least, have always been fair (and native).
Danubians (Nordids), on the other hand, are only recently fair, and then only superficially. Their skin is not nearly as lacking in pigment (using depigmented is misleading here), and their hair, though often quite light, lacks the lustre of the hair (light or dark) of Cro-Magnids.
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