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Post by annienormanna on Jan 25, 2006 15:20:21 GMT -5
I think acting as if it didn't would make the pain come back in some horrible manifestation. The life you had up until experiencing such horror is ruined. Yet, there you are alive and have life yet to live. Like a survivor of a personal holocaust, a Christian is on a personal quest towards spiritual amelioration, and healing. The point is not to give up because one may never be able to forgive, but that the possiblity of forgiveness, which seems frightful from the first reaction to tragedy, requires a journey. And in the end, a state of love existing above the pain. Failing to get that far is no sin. Thats the worst thing about christianity. The faux virtues. When in the real world, things like martyrdom and the loving of ones enemies, is insane to an absurd degree, even inhuman. Yes. So the worst thing for you would be common ground. I see. Well the martyrs view is also up for grabs, ol' Duky. The martyrs view is meaningless if the intent to cause harm. Is that your intent, then? To cause harm? Incivility?
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 25, 2006 15:36:30 GMT -5
Thats the worst thing about christianity. The faux virtues. When in the real world, things like martyrdom and the loving of ones enemies, is insane to an absurd degree, even inhuman. Yes. So the worst thing for you would be common ground. I see. Well the martyrs view is also up for grabs, ol' Duky. The martyrs view is meaningless if the intent to cause harm. Is that your intent, then? To cause harm? Incivility? What the hell are you talking about? The "martyrs view" is meaningless, regardless. Being a martyr is commting suicide for incorporeal reasons, i.e., insanity. Dying for a cause or some other worldly reason, oughta be commended, dying for some delusive god, ought not.
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Post by annienormanna on Jan 25, 2006 15:43:15 GMT -5
Yes. So the worst thing for you would be common ground. I see. Well the martyrs view is also up for grabs, ol' Duky. The martyrs view is meaningless if the intent to cause harm. Is that your intent, then? To cause harm? Incivility? What the hell are you talking about? The "martyrs view" is meaningless, regardless. Being a martyr is commting suicide for incorporeal reasons, i.e., insanity. Never felt that Nausea, did you? When a man picks up a weapon and defends his family knowing full well he may die even though his defense is successful, is he insane? Being a martyr is dying fo Core Belief. Do you know what a core belief is? Where these beliefs can be easily led astray is where insanity begins.
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 25, 2006 15:49:03 GMT -5
What the hell are you talking about? The "martyrs view" is meaningless, regardless. Being a martyr is commting suicide for incorporeal reasons, i.e., insanity. Never felt that Nausea, did you? When a man picks up a weapon and defends his family knowing full well he may die even though his defense is successful, is he insane? Being a martyr is dying fo Core Belief. Do you know what a core belief is? Where these beliefs can be easily led astray is where insanity begins. Did you even read my post?
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Post by annienormanna on Jan 25, 2006 15:56:04 GMT -5
Never felt that Nausea, did you? When a man picks up a weapon and defends his family knowing full well he may die even though his defense is successful, is he insane? Being a martyr is dying fo Core Belief. Do you know what a core belief is? Where these beliefs can be easily led astray is where insanity begins. Did you even read my post? I did. Reply:Another head hangs lowly, Child is slowly taken. And the violence caused such silence, Who are we mistaken? But you see, it's not me, it's not my family. In your head, in your head they are fighting, With their tanks and their bombs, And their bombs and their guns. In your head, in your head, they are crying... In your head, in your head, Zombie, zombie, zombie, Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head, In your head, Zombie, zombie, zombie? Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, dou, dou, dou, dou, dou... Another mother's breakin', Heart is taking over. When the vi'lence causes silence, We must be mistaken. It's the same old theme since nineteen-sixteen. In your head, in your head they're still fighting, With their tanks and their bombs, And their bombs and their guns. In your head, in your head, they are dying... In your head, in your head, Zombie, zombie, zombie, Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head, In your head, Zombie, zombie, zombie? Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, oh, oh, Oh, oh, oh, oh, hey, oh, ya, ya-a...
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 25, 2006 16:04:45 GMT -5
Ok then.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Jan 25, 2006 16:33:26 GMT -5
Duke is that avatar supposed to to be Peppers with a militant berret,? LOL!
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Post by annienormanna on Jan 25, 2006 16:43:20 GMT -5
Ok then. Ahh, but check it out: Makes you wanna shiver, doesn't it.
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Post by annienormanna on Jan 25, 2006 16:46:39 GMT -5
I think acting as if it didn't would make the pain come back in some horrible manifestation. The life you had up until experiencing such horror is ruined. Yet, there you are alive and have life yet to live. Like a survivor of a personal holocaust, a Christian is on a personal quest towards spiritual amelioration, and healing. The point is not to give up because one may never be able to forgive, but that the possiblity of forgiveness, which seems frightful from the first reaction to tragedy, requires a journey. And in the end, a state of love existing above the pain. Failing to get that far is no sin. Thats the worst thing about christianity. The faux virtues. When in the real world, things like martyrdom and the loving of ones enemies, is insane to an absurd degree, even inhuman. The worst thing is to assume you have the knowledge of anyone else's existence. A scoff is as good as a nod to a blind Teenaged Mutant Ninja Turtle, sparky.
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 25, 2006 17:18:53 GMT -5
Thats the worst thing about christianity. The faux virtues. When in the real world, things like martyrdom and the loving of ones enemies, is insane to an absurd degree, even inhuman. The worst thing is to assume you have the knowledge of anyone else's existence. A scoff is as good as a nod to a blind Teenaged Mutant Ninja Turtle, sparky. Another Ironic zinger, back to back. God's non-existence is objective, his existence is empirical. Gods nonexistance... Actually, his "objectively unsubstantiated existence", in a reality based context, is backed by evidence, or rather, lack thereof. This is hardly "claiming someone else's existence". Thats what Christianity preaches. That I, the Atheist, is under this imaginary gods yoke.
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Post by phrost on Jan 25, 2006 18:03:13 GMT -5
So-called victims organizations are the biggest hypocrites I've ever known. Alot of them talk about God and how God helps through the hard times are losing or going through tough trials with family and friends who are victims but then turn around and have no forgiveness for the person who committed the crime. If you have no forgiveness for a person who has sinned and instead have all of this vile wrath and hate you're not walking with God, you're playing right into Satan's hands. They need to quit thanking God for convictions and death senetences being handed out to criminals, what God does and what man does are two different things. I saw a show on American television regarding the most prolific serial killer, the so called "green river killer", where preceding his sentencing the family of the victims were allowed to say something. One man stood up and had claimed to have "forgiven him", since that's what a "good" Christian is supposed to do. After hearing this I was confused more than words could explain. I too remember that scene of the guy forgiving the serial killer.
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Post by annienormanna on Jan 25, 2006 18:57:43 GMT -5
The worst thing is to assume you have the knowledge of anyone else's existence. A scoff is as good as a nod to a blind Teenaged Mutant Ninja Turtle, sparky. Another Ironic zinger, back to back. God's non-existence is objective, his existence is empirical. Gods nonexistance... Actually, his "objectively unsubstantiated existence", in a reality based context, is backed by evidence, or rather, lack thereof. This is hardly "claiming someone else's existence". Thats what Christianity preaches. That I, the Atheist, is under this imaginary gods yoke. Nobody f*cks with the Jesus, Man Jesus, from "The Big Liebowski"
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Post by wendland on Jan 26, 2006 2:15:57 GMT -5
You're very right, Annienormanna. And, they aren't faux virtues, no one said you have to be a martyr, this is just about living life--having to overcome and get through terrible, terrible things.
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 26, 2006 7:42:19 GMT -5
You're very right, Annienormanna. And, they aren't faux virtues, no one said you have to be a martyr, this is just about living life--having to overcome and get through terrible, terrible things. Hahaha, a Martyr living life? overcome? Overcome what? our mortal coil!
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Post by annienormanna on Jan 26, 2006 16:29:52 GMT -5
You're very right, Annienormanna. And, they aren't faux virtues, no one said you have to be a martyr, this is just about living life--having to overcome and get through terrible, terrible things. Hard dealing with a cartoon character, inn'it
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