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Post by phrost on Jan 5, 2006 14:53:42 GMT -5
I also brought up the Russain mafia. Given the fact organize crime is conducted by people of all ethnicity including whites/ white Americans etc.. And Yes this would include Irish organize crime and also biker gangs etc.
The FBI website has some good info on the various organize crime groups currently operating around the world.
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 5, 2006 17:17:51 GMT -5
Not true regarding crime in General. In many instances, if not most, two of the most prolific Gangs are from India and South east asia, and come from wealthy families with complex ties in among themselves, live in affluent neighbourhoods, and still commit crime. I dont know where you are getting your info from. We are also not talking about Organize crime. If you want to talk about organize crime the Russian mafia (of recent) and Italian mafia are still the most influential. I am getting my info from reality. You obviously don't know jack shit about crime in Canada. East Indian gangs and Chinese triads are the most prevalent and could be called organized crimes. The indo-"Canadians" are the biggest problem and are very violent. Though the "urban" disorganized gangs like that of Amerindians or black "gangsters" are just as violent. Russian and Italian organized crime doesn't exist at all, the closest thing would be Russian night clubs that house prostitutes. Which is far from cocaine/heroin smuggling/ dealing. The hells angels are a lot more dynamic. A public gun fight that would end in the death of a young passer by simply doesn't happen. If anybody dies it's always a "hit" and it's always a rival not some unknown guy that they don't know. Kinda like Italian mobsterism I guess, from what I see in movies anyways. It's a lot more passive, since a lot are legitimate businessmen. They're busted by meticulous police work, not in firefights.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Jan 5, 2006 17:29:09 GMT -5
So Canada doesen't have a history Caucasoid organized crime like America has with the Albanians,Italians,Jews,the Irish,etc.So organized crime in Canada is made up entirely of Negroids and Mongoloids.
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 5, 2006 17:32:51 GMT -5
So Canada doesen't have a history Caucasoid organized crime like America has with the Albanians,Italians,Jews,the Irish,etc.So organized crime in Canada is made up entirely of Negroids and Mongoloids. Not really, other than some american gansters smuggling whiseky and stuff during american prohibition. We never really had a "wild-west" either. The reson is becuase of the early establshment of a centralized policing force "royal canadian mounted police" where as america had nothing of the sort and for that there was a "wild" west. Negros and Amerindians are the low level gansters. Indians from India and sri lankans are a bit more sophisticated, and the Chinese even more so. Those are the main crime groups.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Jan 5, 2006 17:51:43 GMT -5
Dukeofpain has the MS-16 made its way into Canada yet they are a gang consisting of Mexicans and Central Americans.They run the streets of Los Angeles,Miami,Houston,Phoenix,San Diego,Dallas,New York,Chicago,etc basically any large city in America with a large Hispanic population.
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 5, 2006 18:02:12 GMT -5
No it does matter Phrost because when you bring up the Italian mafia it just proves dukeofpain's point that NonWhites are more prone to crime than Whites after all dukeofpain is a White supremecist and most White supremecists see Italians as inferior to Northern Europeans there for NonWhite so you should have used the Irish mafia as an example instead because unlike Italians,the Irish are actually considered White by all White supremecists,skinheads,and Klan members. I don't know what you're talking about. I said that they were no more "white" than turks or Jews or other "non-white". That's because the word only makes sense to me to be used to refer to Caucasians in general. Cutting of turks, Iranians or Arabs doesn't make sense to me, no more than a Sicilian. It can't be religion that excludes whiteness since alot of Europeans are atheistic therefore turks and Jews shouldn't be excluded because of religion. Racially like I said they are no more non-European as Sicilians and others, likewise for most European Jews. So what would bar them? I just think the word is stupid unless used in a general way. Without all these stupid nonsense clauses. You getting hung up on it is exactly what I am talking about. It means nothing. If I was going to think of south Italians as being inferior I would base it on the south Italian people, not on their presumed ad mixture. I am not a white-supremest, I am a misanthrop.
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Post by phrost on Jan 5, 2006 18:06:59 GMT -5
I dont know where you are getting your info from. We are also not talking about Organize crime. If you want to talk about organize crime the Russian mafia (of recent) and Italian mafia are still the most influential. I am getting my info from reality. You obviously don't know jack shit about crime in Canada. East Indian gangs and Chinese triads are the most prevalent and could be called organized crimes. The indo-"Canadians" are the biggest problem and are very violent. Though the "urban" disorganized gangs like that of Amerindians or black "gangsters" are just as violent. Russian and Italian organized crime doesn't exist at all, the closest thing would be Russian night clubs that house prostitutes. Which is far from cocaine/heroin smuggling/ dealing. The hells angels are a lot more dynamic. A public gun fight that would end in the death of a young passer by simply doesn't happen. If anybody dies it's always a "hit" and it's always a rival not some unknown guy that they don't know. Kinda like Italian mobsterism I guess, from what I see in movies anyways. It's a lot more passive, since a lot are legitimate businessmen. They're busted by meticulous police work, not in firefights. Actually your the one full of "jack shit". If I recall Discovery Channel had a series on organize crime in Canada. And yes the series does also mention names of white Canadians who were into organize crime. As for bikers. The biker war that has been going on is well known in the news. In particular in Quebec. Article on Biker gangs in Canada www.cbc.ca/news/background/bikergangs/antiganglaw.html"....More than 150 people have been killed so far, including an 11-year-old boy who was hit by flying shrapnel from a car bomb that exploded nearby." As for Russian organize crime "not existing": members.tripod.com/~orgcrime/rusindex.htmwww.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1237772,00.asp Organize Crime in Canada This is a CISC report canadaonline.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.cisc.gc.ca/webpage/index%5Fb%5Fe.htmor try this link: canadaonline.about.com/library/weekly/aa082800c.htmwww.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/968256/postscanadaonline.about.com/library/weekly/aa082800b.htm?iam=metaresults&terms=canada+drug+langdonOrganize Crime Globally (including Europe) www.lib.msu.edu/harris23/crimjust/orgcrime.htmetc etc etc.
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Post by nordicyouth on Jan 5, 2006 18:09:17 GMT -5
In Canada, the Hells Angels are the largest and most prolific organized crime group, and are White. In Quebec they were involved in a turf war with a Quebecor motorcycle gang called the 'Rock Machine' during which some 150 people, including innocent passers-by died. The Angels fairly much run British Columbian crime, controlling the supply of drugs like heroin and cocaine and others to a lesser extent.
The triads operate more within Sino-Canadian communities, not really affecting other Canadians.
The East Indian gangs almost always murder their own during gang warfare, etc. Gun violence began as a result of their gangs, which come from affluent families.
Indo-Canadians are more of an annoyance to other Canadians. They go after and treat White girls with disrespect in nightclubs (usually resulting in them getting thrown out), and cause fights, etc.
Generally, non-White violence is confined to its specific group. However, when it expands the authorities get involved as in the case of Toronto's Boxing Day shootings where a White girl was shot dead.
Non-White crime groups heighten the danger in certain areas for Canadians, but usually their violence only hurts their own kind and shows up on national statistics.
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 5, 2006 20:09:09 GMT -5
What are you talking about. I said that the Russian mafia didn't operate in Canada, and if they do they are extremely good at whatever crime they're commiting becuase I have yet to see them on the news. The only russians I had seen were nightclub/brothel owners, which isn't comparable with people that smuggle, sell drug and murder people. I said there were behind the scene white criminal organizations. The groups I mentioned poses the greatest threat to society, namely public safety. People don't die from Money laundering and fraud and they certainly don't die from walking into a nightclub. Look at any canadian news site and type keyword: shooting, then see how many articles you can find of these incorporeal white gangs and the threat they pose to the General public. You really posted some great links there. This was the First sentense from one: CSIS says that there are somewhere between five and 150 criminal organizations operating in Canada Give me a break.
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 5, 2006 20:29:18 GMT -5
In Canada, the Hells Angels are the largest and most prolific organized crime group, and are White. In Quebec they were involved in a turf war with a Quebecor motorcycle gang called the 'Rock Machine' during which some 150 people, including innocent passers-by died. The Angels fairly much run British Columbian crime, controlling the supply of drugs like heroin and cocaine and others to a lesser extent. The triads operate more within Sino-Canadian communities, not really affecting other Canadians. The East Indian gangs almost always murder their own during gang warfare, etc. Gun violence began as a result of their gangs, which come from affluent families. Indo-Canadians are more of an annoyance to other Canadians. They go after and treat White girls with disrespect in nightclubs (usually resulting in them getting thrown out), and cause fights, etc. Generally, non-White violence is confined to its specific group. However, when it expands the authorities get involved as in the case of Toronto's Boxing Day shootings where a White girl was shot dead. Non-White crime groups heighten the danger in certain areas for Canadians, but usually their violence only hurts their own kind and shows up on national statistics. I'd like to see the news story of the innocent people in quebec being killed. Rock machine, bandidos, HA kill each other and they do it in a manner that facilitates not getting caught. I've never heard of these passer-by deaths. Here where I live, the Alberta Tarsands, we have a huge market for drugs becuase the hordes of workers that do little other than work and whom are all extremely wealthy since the plants pay very well. We have the HA in town and no doubt most of the drugs come from them, they recently built a large strip club and another club and I have yet to hear of one instance of them even getting pinched for selling drugs, let alone violence or theft or something like that. On the other hand amerindian gangs with stupid names like "indian posse" and "alberta warriors", pose a very tangebile threat. I should know since my frinds cousin was stabbed to death by one of them after they raided a bush party. This was the exact same as when I lived with my father in Burnaby where almost all of the same low life crimes were commited by south asians, never did I hear about the russian mafia and their criminal rages. I'd expect it would be the same in toronto, only the torch would be passed to blacks. This was the guy I was talking about. www.fortmcmurraytoday.com/obits_results.php?keyword=thomas&order_by=dateofdeath&pos=0&id=13824#13824
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Post by phrost on Jan 6, 2006 16:02:54 GMT -5
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Post by phrost on Jan 6, 2006 16:03:52 GMT -5
I find CISC and RCMP alot more credible than what you have said.
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 6, 2006 17:14:12 GMT -5
I find CISC and RCMP alot more credible than what you have said. Right. "CSIS says that there are somewhere between five and 150 criminal organizations operating in Canada" That statement seethes in credibility The same organization that called Ernst Zundel a threat to canadas national security, becuase a jewish justice minister no doubt told them he was. which the american FBI would'nt even touch with a ten foot pole. Or the same CSIS that incriminated an innocent man as being a terrorist, had him sent to syria where he was tortured.
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Post by dukeofpain on Jan 6, 2006 17:17:46 GMT -5
It's a wonder I hadn't heard of the story being posted, seeing as I was 9 when it happened. Might as well go back to the 1980's and 70's.
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Post by aroundtheworld on Jan 6, 2006 18:19:33 GMT -5
So Canada doesen't have a history Caucasoid organized crime like America has with the Albanians,Italians,Jews,the Irish,etc.So organized crime in Canada is made up entirely of Negroids and Mongoloids. Too funny! ;D ;D
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