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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 30, 2005 23:43:14 GMT -5
Educate Me but the bad apples that manage to slip across the border f*ck it up for everybody else so blame the bad apples in the Mexican community its because of them that most Americans want the borders closed.
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Post by Educate Me on Dec 30, 2005 23:46:38 GMT -5
of course I dont live in the usa
I wouldnt oppose a deportate all criminals policy (like in france with the riots), and to make sure no one else gets in
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Post by Drooperdoo on Dec 30, 2005 23:50:26 GMT -5
Educate_Me, I, too, agree that it would be impractical to deport any illegals in the United States already. What I'm saying is that we don't need to make the problem worse by keeping the border open. We need to close it down immediately, so that we can stop the flow of crime, gangs, drugs and terrorist threats (now that Mexican diplomats have been caught smuggling in people from nations on terror watch-lists). We would be able to get a handle on the people ALREADY without our borders if we stopped the flow of the ones now already here. That's what I'm proposing: Common sense--following our own laws and stopping anymore law-breakers from coming to America in order to rape, sell drugs or engage in other felonious activity.
P.S.--Tony, yes, I think that the Minute Men are the only true patriots right now--even as Bush tries to demonize them and call them "domestic terrorists" and "vigilantes".
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Post by Batrus on Dec 30, 2005 23:50:32 GMT -5
Hey, Educate me, are you well acquainted with our nation immigrants policy? Because i've always find it strange how it's so easy to become an argentinian citizen (althugh for obvious reasons not as sought). And considering our already delicated economic situation, it's strange how the situation is ignored.
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Post by Educate Me on Dec 30, 2005 23:52:47 GMT -5
it is ognored because most immigrants (peruvians, bolivians) got out of here when we devaluated our currency, we used to have 3 times more immigratns
if you give birth in argentina your son is an argentine,
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 30, 2005 23:56:26 GMT -5
Batrus what do you think of the Indianzation of your country you can kiss your White majority good bye if your government doesen't stop sucking Bolivian and Peruvian cocks. ;D
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Post by Batrus on Dec 30, 2005 23:56:43 GMT -5
it is ognored because most immigrants (peruvians, bolivians) got out of here when we devaluated our currency, we used to have 3 times more immigratns if you give birth in argentina your son is an argentine, The second part makes perfect sense considering our history, but the seconds is a sorprise to me. Although i do think we should have a stricter immigrants policy considering that us, unlike the USA, have plenty of non qualified cheap workers.
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Post by Batrus on Dec 30, 2005 23:58:50 GMT -5
Batrus what do you think of the Indianzation of your country you can kiss your White majority good bye if your government doesen't stop sucking Bolivian and Peruvian cocks. ;D I didn't mean it like that. I don't think that peruvians and bolivians are naturally "dumber" than we are. The real problem is that they are very poorly educated. I do have an aesthetic dislike for bolivian women, but as i'm not planning to marry any of them, that doesn't really matter.
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 31, 2005 0:02:01 GMT -5
These Peruvians and Bolivians in Argentina they create favela looking communities right.
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Post by Batrus on Dec 31, 2005 0:06:57 GMT -5
Well "favela" is a brazilian term. We call ours "villas miserias" (something like "misery villes"), and yes, they are mainly composed by meztizos and amerindians. Usually of low stature (from bolivia and Peru), but also some taller and slightly fairer (paraguayans)
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Post by wadad on Dec 31, 2005 0:30:13 GMT -5
The immigrants are masochists then because after all they immigrated. First you would see a dramatic increase in the quality of life for genuine citizens after having gotten rid of the alien scourge and the decadence they are aligned with, and secondly you'd see the decline of the all powerful capitalist swine elite (wal-mart, McDonals, Factory farming, etc.) You don't even know what you're saying. If people are against alien immigration, obviously they are also against the businesses employing them, whom are ultimately their harborers. You have a twisted perspective if you think peoples "hate" of illegal immigrants is so abysmal that they would not heed the employers themselves, that you're saying are slave owners, and this slavery you're accusing the white majority of being indifferent towards. Though this twistedness is in line with the neo-egalitarian PC bull that you've been preaching. Which is markedly anti-majority, and full of contempt for white people. If what I said is egalitarian PC bull,then so is the American declaration of independence when it says "all men are created equal". I dont have contempt for white people, apparently to you advocating moral and legal egalitarianism for the destitute and weak equals contempt for white people, or else I wouldnt have spoken against the status quo, no? Im against illegal immigration anyway...but IM all for Legal and skilled immigraton, which you arent. care to share the drawbacks of LEGAL immigration?
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Post by psychosemitic on Dec 31, 2005 0:33:55 GMT -5
i honestly dont think just cuz a person who squatted her babies in this country should make those babies american. even tho i am a product of such a squatting so to speak, my problem is that a majority of these imigrants not only from just Latin America and West/South Asia but even from eastern europe. who come here and have their kids and never care to learn the language because they live in self imposed ghettoes and they ship all their earnings back to mexico/pakistan/russia etc in a hope to eventually return. i may be a hipocrite because my mom(altho she tries) is less than fluent, but my dad and aunt are fluent(all be it heavily accented) and all of my family here and in canada are American/Canadian citezens and had the drive to contribute to this country instead of sending all their money to another country which is another thing that pisses me of. with that being said i think we should more readilly curb illegal immigration not on a racial idea but on a cultural-economic one, simply put as a former store owner ive had to activley shoo away people who had the audacity to park their little trinket carts and blankets in front of my store and sell same merchandise for alot less, why? because they dont have to pay uncle sam taxes i do, and god knows where they got the merchendise to begin with.
another thing that greats me is the hipocricy of some leftists coreligionists of mine who advocate an open imigration policy for america and outcry things such as socalled "racial profiling" and then completly flip flop when it comes to israel. I dont belive such a thing called "racial profiling" exists, at least no diffrent than what is done by the FBI on a daily base against white males in america. so if your names Mosu Albahkari you might get stoped on a plain, Big deal dont blame us because quite frankly your more likley to do it then someone named Nigel Strong Arm,Julio Ortega or Lashawnda jenkins. and dont cry "Racial profiling" and claim some sort of bias, the same thing is done to whites,blacks,and browns everyday it is no diffrent. every time they find a serial killer, what do they always assume he is? think about that. and if its a driveby or an armed robbery who do they assume to do it then? fact is everyone White,Black,or Mohhamed faces some sort of "racial profiling" one time or an other
as i said Race has nothing to do with my ideals i myself am a hispanic or "brown" if you will. but i contribute to this country, and have no problem with some one who plans to contribute moves, here and becomes a citezen but the problem is most who come here never have a desire to become american, rather to just work and ship their money so it affects some other countries economy and causes inflation on ours
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Post by dukeofpain on Dec 31, 2005 0:38:23 GMT -5
If they're against those businesses then they have a weird way of showing it considering they're very profitable. They're under the yoke. Just like media. The public airways is supposed to be just that, the publics, yet, who's going to claim that it is? Just like wal-mart and big business in general. The public today are to fatalistic and believe they are insignificant with regard to power and the way things run. The consumer is going to get the best for their dollar and buy at wal-mart, even if they have a problem with wal-mart and it's policies. Why would they punish themselves? Which is basically what it would be. Did you know wal-mart doesn't even have a union? The businesses prosper because thats what oligarchies do, they exploit and prosper. The people just feel helpless, the contempt is there though.
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Post by psychosemitic on Dec 31, 2005 0:44:18 GMT -5
Im against unions period, they harbor a sort of Socialist/Marxist mentality all for one and one for all is socialist bs
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Post by tonynatuzzi on Dec 31, 2005 0:48:57 GMT -5
Educate Me,Yigal,Anodyne,Wadad,Drooperdoo,etc did you know that Los Angeles is the city with the second largest Mexican population in the world.
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