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Post by nymos on Dec 5, 2005 8:54:06 GMT -5
Jebuskiller, how long are you in Israel?
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Post by nordicyouth on Dec 5, 2005 13:38:46 GMT -5
If it wasn't for the Rothschilds, National Socialism never would have succeded. The Nazis and Communists were both bankrolled by Jewish bankers and their subsidiaries in England and the United States. The Jewish people were their own betrayors - bankers, capos, etc., whereby a minority allowed the majority to be subjected to extermination. In fact, the Jewish police authorized by the National Socialist state were far worse than the Nazis themselves. It is not unlike the Jewish Minister of Immigration in Russia, who is notoriously anti-Semitic.
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Post by nordicyouth on Dec 5, 2005 13:39:35 GMT -5
And Yigal, Latin Jews aren't even on the radar in Jewish society. I have an Arab Jew friend and he can't get anywhere cause he's darker
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Post by anodyne on Dec 5, 2005 14:37:49 GMT -5
Both fascism and communism have similar roots. Both have a low regard for the bourgeois. Both are anti- capitalist. Fascism and communism are just two sibilings duking it out. People make a big issue that many businessmen backed Hitler. They forget that it was under the impression that he could be controlled. It was a poorly thoughout scheme that cost them dearly. They became pawns of the state with Hitler holding over their heads his ability to take away their property rights whenever he felt it necessary.
It's no surprise that the founder of Fascist ideology, Giovanni Gentile, as well as other Italian thinkers that contributed to the ideology, started their adult lives on the political left and, as much as socialists I meet deny this, they stayed on the political left. These men helped form a new branch of socialism.
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Post by dukeofpain on Dec 5, 2005 15:17:23 GMT -5
Uh oh, more jewish in-fighting!
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Post by dukeofpain on Dec 5, 2005 15:18:39 GMT -5
If it wasn't for the Rothschilds, National Socialism never would have succeded. The Nazis and Communists were both bankrolled by Jewish bankers and their subsidiaries in England and the United States. The Jewish people were their own betrayors - bankers, capos, etc., whereby a minority allowed the majority to be subjected to extermination. In fact, the Jewish police authorized by the National Socialist state were far worse than the Nazis themselves. It is not unlike the Jewish Minister of Immigration in Russia, who is notoriously anti-Semitic. Still, capitalists supporting fascism is sensical, unlike capitalists supporting communism. Plus, you have to understand hitler came into power wholly unlike the bolsheviks, whom needed large amounts of cash to wage civil-war.
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Post by dukeofpain on Dec 5, 2005 15:28:31 GMT -5
Like the einsatzkommandos or judenrat? I'd say they had certain contributing factors at play regarding their conduct at the time.
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Post by Yankel on Dec 5, 2005 15:54:23 GMT -5
In fact, the Jewish police authorized by the National Socialist state were far worse than the Nazis themselves. That's a matter of opinion. Don't state it as a 'fact'. No one is disputing your other points, which were redundant anyway.
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Post by dukeofpain on Dec 5, 2005 17:41:41 GMT -5
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Post by ikilledjesus on Dec 5, 2005 18:08:15 GMT -5
so you are saying only israel has sex slavery? , whatever floats your boat.
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Post by yigal on Dec 5, 2005 18:37:32 GMT -5
Like the einsatzkommandos or judenrat? I'd say they had certain contributing factors at play regarding their conduct at the time. in the words of the prophet moses himself, Zayin ba ayin
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Post by Yankel on Dec 5, 2005 18:43:59 GMT -5
Ouch, my eye! ;D
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Post by nordicyouth on Dec 5, 2005 19:37:31 GMT -5
It's not that National Socialism came from the left. The commonalities between it and Communism are in the means NOT the ends. The ends are divergent, right and left, regardless of whether or not one form is more extreme. The means were the same - totalitarianism - the Party and/or Leader controlling every aspect of citizens' life. Indeed, in the DDR, which was the most totalitarian state in the Soviet bloc, the SED superimposed Communism on a control mechanism that had been created by Hitler. In all reality, Party control was much stronger (and far easier to effect) than in the Soviet Union.
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Post by dukeofpain on Dec 5, 2005 20:20:24 GMT -5
so you are saying only israel has sex slavery? , whatever floats your boat. No. However, a country of 6 million, who is as prominently involved with the trade, as Israel is, warrant's inquiry. Unless you can tell me why Jews are more comfortable with profiting off of sex-slaves, than other non-Jews. When the Jews here were accusing the contemptible "Natasha's" as being "sluts" who became slaves completely under their own free will, it was obvious to me how you came to that sentiment, and what you really meant. shulchan aruch -Yoreh De'ah: Jews may have Jews as indentured servants and may subjugate Jews who behave illegally, but may not own Jews as slaves (see 267:14-16); however, they may acquire non-Jews (of both sexes) as slaves (see 267:17-18). A woman may own female slaves but should not own male slaves (267:19). It is forbidden to free a slave without a good reason; see 267:79. A slave who is sold to a non-Jew must be freed; see 267:80-81 written in the Tosephta, Avodah Zarah chapter 8, halacha 5 (in the Zuckermandel edition; in the Vilna edition it is chapter 9, halacha 4): "...Regarding theft -- a thief, a robber, one who takes a [captive] beautiful woman, and the like -- these are things it is forbidden for a Gentile [to perpetrate] against a Gentile, or [against] a Jew, but it is permissible for a Jew [to perpetrate] against a Gentile."
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Post by nymos on Dec 5, 2005 21:27:23 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong but in the very articles you've listed it's indicated that Amnesty International did inquire into the matter. So what's the point of what you have just said? Why are you just throwing empty, meaningless words around?
What the hell does this mean? Empty words again. Do you not see that this is meaningless drivel?
Yigal may be a Jew, but he's definitely not Jews. Purposely distorting reality is your hobby.
Although you'll never admit it, it's clear that you don't give a rat's ass about the "Natashas" or the Palestinians as you pretend to. You're are motivated by nothing other than an irrational hatred of Jews. The sooner you come to realize this the better off you'll be.
Great! You can copy and paste. Anything else you want to show us?
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