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Post by wadad on Dec 18, 2005 16:07:43 GMT -5
abdul gets banned because he doesnt have the patience or the maturity to state his points clearly. He starts trolling and opening the same topics, which is unfortunate...because abdul is more knowledgeable on race and racial issues than the majority of dodonites save a few (mike the jedi, agrippa, etc.) his talent for identifying admixtures and pointing out whats Arab or not is remarkable. As is the databank of pictures of middle easterners of all kinds that he possesses Im sure alot of dodonites will learn somethings from abdul, if he's given the chance. Mods, If abdul stays within the rules and regulations of the board and: - does not troll - does not spam - does not provoke flame wars would he be allowed to stay? As for you, abdul...You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. You can win people to your side more easily by gentle persuasion and common sense than by hostile confrontation and trolling 
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Post by nymos on Dec 18, 2005 16:25:07 GMT -5
Having seen abdul's "knowledge" on race and racial issues, I think this is an insult to the majority of Dodonites.
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Post by erektile on Dec 18, 2005 16:29:26 GMT -5
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Post by wadad on Dec 18, 2005 16:29:33 GMT -5
Let me clarify: On the Middle East (he calls it Semites), abdul is more knowledgeable than majority of dodonites. Anyways that is my opinion ( I learned alot about arabs from him)
Its upto abdul to prove you wrong, hopefully he gets more than 24 hrs
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Post by anodyne on Dec 18, 2005 16:42:53 GMT -5
abdul gets banned because he doesnt have the patience or the maturity to state his points clearly. He starts trolling and opening the same topics, which is unfortunate...because abdul is more knowledgeable on race and racial issues than the majority of dodonites save a few (mike the jedi, agrippa, etc.) his talent for identifying admixtures and pointing out whats Arab or not is remarkable. As is the databank of pictures of middle easterners of all kinds that he possesses Im sure alot of dodonites will learn somethings from abdul, if he's given the chance. Mods, If abdul stays within the rules and regulations of the board and: - does not troll - does not spam - does not provoke flame wars would he be allowed to stay? As for you, abdul...You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. You can win people to your side more easily by gentle persuasion and common sense than by hostile confrontation and trolling  You have to be kidding. Abdul, you thinkhitting on another poster wasn't out of line? This isn't a club. I don't know this jay character but he posted a thread in which 1) he lied about who he was 2) in that thread you posted he was being an ass.
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Post by wadad on Dec 18, 2005 16:49:00 GMT -5
guys, just give him a chance. Whats the most harm he did? He maintains Arabs are not caucasian...should he be banned for that? 
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Post by atlantis on Dec 18, 2005 16:52:51 GMT -5
unfortunate...because abdul is more knowledgeable on race and racial issues than the majority of dodonites save a few (mike the jedi, agrippa, etc.) his talent for identifying admixtures and pointing out whats Arab or not is remarkable. As is the databank of pictures of middle easterners of all kinds that he possesses He knows jackshit about Arabs. He used to spread a lot of misinformation on Berbers too until people like Igu and Berter gave him a reality check. I tried to inform him on Arabs and everytime when he didn't have an answer, he used his famous line "whitewasher!".
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Post by erektile on Dec 18, 2005 16:55:24 GMT -5
guys, just give him a chance. Whats the most harm he did? He maintains Arabs are not caucasian...should he be banned for that?  In their narrow insecure mind that it a grave offense Anyway you must learn the history of it,the guy who bans me is melnorme always. He knows me from racialmyths,they banned me basically from dodonas starting because of my behavior which i look back and say that was a good decision Eufrenio/dienekes doesnt ban me,melnorme keeps doing it
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Post by wadad on Dec 18, 2005 16:58:22 GMT -5
guys, just give him a chance. Whats the most harm he did? He maintains Arabs are not caucasian...should he be banned for that?  In their narrow insecure mind that it a grave offense OK, man heres your problem...this isnt you vs. "Them" ok? there isnt some kind of clique against you...address people individually...none of that, "yall whitewashers know shit mayne, i toy wit yall" stuff. If you stay within the rules, mods will respect it and you wont get banned, how hard is that?
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Post by anodyne on Dec 18, 2005 17:00:09 GMT -5
guys, just give him a chance. Whats the most harm he did? He maintains Arabs are not caucasian...should he be banned for that?  It goes against the facts. We're supposed to discuss facts and not fantasy.
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Post by wadad on Dec 18, 2005 17:05:45 GMT -5
guys, just give him a chance. Whats the most harm he did? He maintains Arabs are not caucasian...should he be banned for that?  It goes against the facts. We're supposed to discuss facts and not fantasy. No! Fact/falsehood should not be the criteria to ban someone, or else everytime someone says something he believes to be fact but maybe incorrect, would result in his banning...do you want that? When posting, evidence for claims should be cited, and then people would be allowed the freedom to accept or refute the claims. This is a human biodiversity forum. If people stay within rules and regulations, they can contribute. Or would you rather hae abdul silenced because of his opinions?
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Post by erektile on Dec 18, 2005 17:09:13 GMT -5
guys, just give him a chance. Whats the most harm he did? He maintains Arabs are not caucasian...should he be banned for that?  It goes against the facts. We're supposed to discuss facts and not fantasy. You think caucasian mongoloid negroid are absolute facts? tate/charlie bass also doesnt agree with caucasian/mongol/negroid and he deemed a troll and a badguy right?
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Post by anodyne on Dec 18, 2005 17:14:27 GMT -5
They should if they have an agenda. The evidence shows that Arabs (with some admixture here and there) are a Caucasoid people. To keep claiming that they're not, which is 80% of Abdul's threads, when the evidence states otherwise makes a mockery of the forum.
Strange that you think there are no facts. If you think there are no facts then we might as well not bother with studies.
Having an agenda (and ignoring facts... as is common with people with an agenda) is against the rules, I believe. It's the reason that Olsonor (sp?) character was banned.
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Post by wadad on Dec 18, 2005 17:20:57 GMT -5
They should if they have an agenda. The evidence shows that Arabs (with some admixture here and there) are a Caucasoid people. To keep claiming that they're not, which is 80% of Abdul's threads, when the evidence states otherwise makes a mockery of the forum. Strange that you think there are no facts. If you think there are no facts then we might as well not bother with studies. Having an agenda (and ignoring facts... as is common with people with an agenda) is against the rules, I believe. It's the reason that Olsonor (sp?) character was banned. Everyone has an agenda. Your interest becomes your agenda...look at my search history, the word Somali pops up numerous times...if you check Atlantis', berber comes up alot. Thats our interests, thus our agendas...and in the same vein yuo too have an agenda. And facts are important, I mistyped and edited my sentence immediately...however all of us are here because we are all given an EQUAL RIGHT to determine whether the facts on the table are correct or not. It is to our disgression whether we believe in them or not. Though I would like only abdul's case discused in this thread, didnt Oslonor impersonate a Dodona member and post it in his blog? Lying is grounds for banning, I've yet to catch abdul in a lie
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Post by nymos on Dec 18, 2005 17:31:55 GMT -5
Wadad, you seem to imply that Abdul is banned on sight just for being Abdul. From what I've seen, that's not true. Mods let him slide every time he gets a new account, but when he resumes with his usual spamming, ad-hominem, and just plain old trolling, they ban him.
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