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Post by galvez on Mar 9, 2004 14:28:05 GMT -5
Not only have Prodigal Son and other Russians 'won' every duel they had here at Dodona, but they've also done a great favour to everyone with providing real facts about Slavs to people who have been educated by western, anti-Slavic historians. I agree. It's important for different viewpoints to be presented in this forum, otherwise the forum becomes too biased. There are lots of misconceptions about Slavs because of ignorant prejudices. |
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Post by galvez on Mar 9, 2004 14:31:45 GMT -5
The same with Galvez - he never stops mentioning how bad Germans opinion about Slavs is and how Slavs are begging for acceptance from Western Europeans, but fails to see what is the attitude towards Southern Europeans on forums like Stormfront, and who is indeed begging for this acceptance. Russians do not beg for acceptance just because we know that we are the ones who is SUPERIOR  , we reply with an insult to every insult. While Galvez says that the attitude to us would be better if we were not that hostile, we will continue to be hostile to anyone who is hostile to us - that is one big difference between us and Southern Europeans, who are trying to behave well and play with their Germanic superiors. I agree with this attitude. And it's true that there are the Southern European losers you describe. I know I will upset people with what I say, but I hope I can stimulate new ways of thinking. My intention is not to tarnish the Slavs, even though I may be interpreted in that way. My goal is to criticize what I believe is a monster that uses them for an agenda not in their interests or those of decent people. |
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Post by AWAR on Mar 9, 2004 14:36:00 GMT -5
The thing that I found hilarious is that people like Graeme or Razmig who live in Western countries like Australia or USA feel that they have all the rights to talk from the position of Western Europeans, labeling Eastern Europeans Mongols, Asiatics, etc. Most of their arguments are based on a bad economic situation in E. Europe, for example whenever someone tries to mention that Russians have the same level of non-Europid admixture as Western Europeans (and backs it up with the proof), they begin to talk about Russian prostitutes or Hitler's attitude towards Slavs, etc. Those are just consequences of a flame war between the Russians and Razmig on Skadi. I'm perfectly aware of what went on there, so I'm not surprised it continued at Dodona. I warned Razmig of his behaviour here, my patience was already at end, and then you guys burst into flames  But I cannot ban someone because he's unsubstantiately arrogant. On the other hand, you can make such a person sound ridiculous in front of other posters when you refute him with facts. The only place on Dodona where I've witnessed Galvez mention Germans and Russians was the one where he depicted how horribly WRONG the WWII Anti-Slavic propaganda was . He made that perfectly clear, and I don't see how you could have misunderstood him. In fact, there is quite a bit of explaining going on in that thread, so I guess your mentioning of Galvez as anti-Russian here is purely malicious on your side. The man made it perfectly clear he isn't anti-Slavic. I think it's perfectly obvious that some East-Europeans would sell their ass for acceptance with the Nordish concept. Such sorry examples very vigorously denigrate non-Nordish-looking Russians, Ukrainians and others so they could look 'better' for acceptance in a concept that isn't designed to accept anyone but Kelts and Germanics. Stormfront is a den of mentally unstable people of all ethnicities and sub-races. Such places attract the worst element of any group, so I don't see how they are relevant to this discussion. Everyone is superior in their own mind, you're not different than anyone else. The problem of Russian and other Slavic ass-kissers is not related to superiority, but to a dimwitted love for everything that has a NAZI label on it. There are a couple of Russians who idolize Hitler and Himmler and McCulloch and Kemp etc. and try to present Russia as some sort of ally to these 'cases' by denigrating their own race and history. That might work at some other forum, not here. I have no comment to what you said, because it has absolutely no relevance to truth. Maybe this happened in some sort of Stormfront-paralel-universum, but not here at Dodona. |
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Post by AWAR on Mar 9, 2004 14:46:37 GMT -5
Again, I apologized if my flame offended any of the sane, intelligent, decent Southern Europeans, and made it clear that it is personally directed at Graeme, a person who claims to be Southern European, but is probably a mongrel. I realize that flaming is unseemly on my behalf, but there is only so much I can take when some idiot repeatedly insults my people, makes genocidal comments against them, and then nonchalantly states that he does not 'resile' his views, while the supposedly 'impartial' moderators, who jump at the chance to ban a Northern European, stand by and do nothing. 1. Don't make broad generalizations and insults. 2. You're a northern-European, and I didn't ban you because I respect your previous additions to this forum. I banned AfrikanerAndy personally, and if you want to discuss that, you know who to speak to. Some people are used to making the worst kind of insults to non-Europeans, non-caucasoids etc. It was Andy's mistake to think that Hindi is fair game just because he's from India and Andy is a member of 'the master race'  It doesn't work like that here. |
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Post by svarog on Mar 9, 2004 15:09:45 GMT -5
Those are just consequences of a flame war between the Russians and Razmig on Skadi. I'm perfectly aware of what went on there, so I'm not surprised it continued at Dodona. Nope. He was the one to start it from the very beginning, I didn't say a word about his beloved Armenians before that. He continues to troll everyday, there is not a single day when he doesn't mention something about how "Ladogan" Russians are. The only place on Dodona where I've witnessed Galvez mention Germans and Russians was the one where he depicted how horribly WRONG the WWII Anti-Slavic propaganda was . He made that perfectly clear, and I don't see how you could have misunderstood him. I am not talking about Russians and Germans in general, but his remarks he makes about "some Russians" on-line. That we are begging for an acceptance from Germans and other Western Europeans. See some of his posts in the "mongoloid admixture in Italians thread". In fact, there is quite a bit of explaining going on in that thread, so I guess your mentioning of Galvez as anti-Russian here is purely malicious on your side. The man made it perfectly clear he isn't anti-Slavic. I am aware of that and I appreciate this. I think it's perfectly obvious that some East-Europeans would sell their ass for acceptance with the Nordish concept. Such sorry examples very vigorously denigrate non-Nordish-looking Russians, Ukrainians and others so they could look 'better' for acceptance in a concept that isn't designed to accept anyone but Kelts and Germanics. Examples, maybe? Stormfront is a den of mentally unstable people of all ethnicities and sub-races. Such places attract the worst element of any group, so I don't see how they are relevant to this discussion. Well, I do not agree with that. There are lots of sane and smart people on this forum. But, sure there are lots of Nazi nutcases as well. Everyone is superior in their own mind, you're not different than anyone else. The problem of Russian and other Slavic ass-kissers is not related to superiority, but to a dimwitted love for everything that has a NAZI label on it. Hmm, to tell the truth never seen Nazi Russians on-line except some nuts on Stormfront. That might work at some other forum, not here. Well, I WILL answer with an insult to any insult (if moderators is not gonna react in time), if it is not ok with you, it is your right to ban me. I have no comment to what you said, because it has absolutely no relevance to truth. Maybe this happened in some sort of Stormfront-paralel-universum, but not here at Dodona. Well we are not talking only about Dodona, are we? |
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Post by Artemidoros on Mar 9, 2004 18:40:32 GMT -5
I think it is a shame that Prodigal is leaving. Although he has a sinful past (who hasn't) he has behaved like a gentleman here. Maybe he would have had to behave in a less gentlemanly manner if he had decided to stay.
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Post by galvez on Mar 9, 2004 19:31:48 GMT -5
It was Andy's mistake to think that Hindi is fair game just because he's from India and Andy is a member of 'the master race' It doesn't work like that here. It definitely does not work that way here. HINDI and others of non-European descent will not be targeted in this forum by White Power idiots. For their ideas, yes; for their race, no. HINDI has a right to speak his opinions like everyone else, and is just as worthy to participate (assuming he behaves in an adult manner) as anyone else at Dodona. |
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Post by galvez on Mar 10, 2004 5:15:49 GMT -5
I think it's perfectly obvious that some East-Europeans would sell their ass for acceptance with the Nordish concept. Such sorry examples very vigorously denigrate non-Nordish-looking Russians, Ukrainians and others so they could look 'better' for acceptance in a concept that isn't designed to accept anyone but Kelts and Germanics. This is exactly the point I am driving at. It may very well be the case that certain nationalistic Russians who have gained notoriety on these boards are very depigmented, inclined toward pinkish skin and blond hair, and even Nordid in appearance; but whatever the status of these Russians compared to other Northern Europeans and Europeans in general, it's clear that there is a "non-Nordish" component in Russia (like in many Northern areas), some of whom, whether mixed or not racially, will be taken to be mixed by Nordicists a priori. These types are perfectly Russian, and those pretending to be Russian nationalists who are willing to bargain with the Northwest Nordicists are selling out on their people which includes such types, as well as their culture and their history -- everything of so much value for nothing. Do Northwest Nordicists like northern Slavs? Yes, in general. Do they see them as equals? No. Lately I have been reading John Baker's Race, which I have posted excerpts of in various threads, and I found something relevant to this discussion which drives my point. Here Baker quotes Houston Stewart Chamberlain, an extreme Nordicist and Germanic racial nationalist, in his book Die Grundlagen: In this book I comprehend under the name Germanen the various north-European populations that appear in history as Kelten, Germanen, and Slaven, from whom -- mostly in inextricable admixtures -- the peoples of modern Europe are derived. It is certain that they were originally one single family -- I shall produce proof of this in Chapter 6, but the Germane in the narrower sense of the word, as used by Tacitus, has proved so superior intellectually, morally, and physically among his kindred, that we are justified in putting down his name as the essence of the whole family (49).The Slavs interested in the Nordicist movements should read this paragraph above carefully. They are considered family, but as inferiors who at best are peripheral within the family and lacking in a certain "essence." But this view is entirely false. The Northeast Europeans evolved in a different environment, have unique cultures, and don't deserve to be "measured" against Germanics with Germanics as a frame of reference -- an "essence" within a family. Those willing to be patted on the head and to sell out on their brothers are sought after in these movements. This is similar to the Jews who collaborated with the National Socialists for personal gain, or the Palestinians who collaborate with Israel while their neighbors get their homes bulldozed. This isn't just Chamberlain's view: this is how Nordicists think. To them, the northern Slavic phenotype is in general inferior -- although better than the Mediterranean and maybe even the Alpine due to depigmentation and only because of depigmentation. I am not going to tell others how they should run their lives, but human beings of any group deserve better than this. They don't need to be told that they should be subjects for a cause far inferior to what their people and ancestors have accomplished. |
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Post by Graeme on Mar 10, 2004 9:49:18 GMT -5
Judging what you said about me, you definitely are a racist. You do not know what I look like. My skin is Keltic white, not ruddy, but white. I do not tan, but turn pillar box red not ruddy and blister, I have gotten skin cancer three times already, I am not Levantine, I am European through and through, but unlike you I don't care what your skin colour is, how ugly you look or anything about you except that you are a bigot. That is enough for me to target you for exposure.
How do you know what IE speakers looked like? You don't! You are a troll and I have exposed you. I am not Italian that is true, but I will still defend them from racists like Rarog. You do not know anything about Austalia even though I think you are, sadly an Australian resident. It is not me mixing with non Europeans it is Australian born Anglo-Kelts, I prefer my own race, the caucasian.
I suspect you are some frustrated nobody in Australia who resents the fact that the non Europeans are out smarting you. You certainly talk like a stupid racist Australian. I know that my country harbours racists like you, but your lot is so effectual and out of touch that no one takes you or your nonsense seriously. I don't, except to see you fall apart at the slightest opposition. If there is anyone who should be in a toilet bowl, it is you.
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Post by svarog on Mar 10, 2004 12:00:13 GMT -5
Galvez, we do not care about North-Western Nordicists (who are not even Nordic in the majority of cases), we just show them their place from time to time, that's it. The idea of any kind of union with them is of course utopical. The truth is: Russia has more Nordics than the rest of the Europe combined, and no matter what the opinion of North-Western Nordicists is - it is not gonna change the fact. |
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Post by Marina on Mar 11, 2004 18:44:01 GMT -5
For example, AfrikanerAndy, a Northern European was banned for insulting HINDI (a troll), AfrikanerAndy was an adorable girlymon! I wish he wasn't banned. He would have been one of my favorites.  Agreed! He's also insulted me for no apparent reason. He's really interesting, though, and I wish he had the ability to conduct a civil discussion!  |
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Post by HINDI on Mar 17, 2004 21:11:00 GMT -5
I see you people kinda like me..  And ehm..Marina..thx alot..some chick with a **** that cussed me, and you still like him...ok right. |
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Post by Marina on Mar 19, 2004 20:42:20 GMT -5
I see you people kinda like me.. And ehm..Marina..thx alot..some chick with a **** that cussed me, and you still like him...ok right. Heehee. My liking for him was based on his adorable looks. |
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Post by HINDI on Mar 20, 2004 8:50:31 GMT -5
ok I think you should stick to Nordics..because Meds are maybe too much MAN , you possibly could handle..
come on..lol...he looked like an 'adorable' woman..and he was a Nazi..hmm..you might be aswell..
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Post by galvez on Jun 26, 2004 19:46:56 GMT -5
Galvez, we do not care about North-Western Nordicists (who are not even Nordic in the majority of cases), we just show them their place from time to time, that's it. The idea of any kind of union with them is of course utopical. The truth is: Russia has more Nordics than the rest of the Europe combined, and no matter what the opinion of North-Western Nordicists is - it is not gonna change the fact. I agree: I am sick and tired of the showy and swarthy and worthless "Germanic" Americans. And I am sick of their defaming of the fairer-skinned Slavic peoples. I don't care if there is a mass exodus of Slavs from this forum. One thing I cannot tolerate is Americans who believe they are more Nordic than what they really are. There are definitely more Nordics in Eastern Europe than in Germany, that's for sure. Otherwise they would not have stolen babies from you folks. |
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, we reply with an insult to every insult. While Galvez says that the attitude to us would be better if we were not that hostile, we will continue to be hostile to anyone who is hostile to us - that is one big difference between us and Southern Europeans, who are trying to behave well and play with their Germanic superiors.
It doesn't work like that here.
