Can Israel deal with Iran on its own? Feb 4, 2006 19:37:00 GMT -5
Post by dukeofpain on Feb 4, 2006 19:37:00 GMT -5
ndrthl said:The most dangerous situation would be the proliferation of nuclear weaponry in the muslim world, and hence the possibility of an anonymous terrorist cell detonating a nuclear artifact (like a suitcase nuclear bomb or something) in a previous designed place. Iran has supported terrorist movements against the West and Israel. It would well do so. In such a case, the target would not know the place where the response should be directed at. The philosophy of Islam is a beligerant one (fidel/infidel binome), and everyone knows that.
Qaeda doesn't have the personnel to maintain complicated nuclear weapons. The Iranians do, and they'd be first on the Hit Parade were they to peddle nukes to Qaeda. Only they wouldn't. Major powers don't invest billions in uranium enrichment and then give the product of that investment to a Saudi playboy, and a Sunni one at that. The Iranians are interested in playing Judenrein with the Shahab 3 missile and have their own plans for the Jews. In any event, both Iran and Qaeda have a similar agenda (revival of the caliphate), though they are both going about it independently from one another.
The real reason why Al-Qaeda thinks of attacking with nuclear weapons, but will stay their hand, is rather simple: once you attack a nuclear power like the United States with the Big One, all bets are off-there is no level of diplomatic restraint that would keep the US from responding in overwhelming kind. When atomic weapons are used as instruments of mass terror, the point is understood that two can play at that game. It's that simple. The notion of legalisms cease when mass killing begins.
The notion among some that America would do nothing because there is no "address" to respond to is a joke. Millions of Muslims, probably upwards to 100 million, would be dead after the first couple of waves of American retaliatory strikes. Vast reaches of the Islamic heartland would be an uninhabitable wasteland. Bin Laden would have achieved his dream: the 9th Century restored. But the Islamic World as it is today would cease to exist.
Restraint falls away when survival is at stake. Bin Laden isn't mad. He is rational. He is a fanatic, like Hitler. That will be his undoing. All fanatics undo themselves in the end. But despite the fanaticism he uses to gull his credulous followers, he knows better than to cross the Rubicon.
No way. It would never happen. Russia and America are still perfectly well aware that a non-tactical nuclear strike simply isn't an option. If America used nuclear weapons against some completely helpless country like Iran because of a terrorist attack, Russia would nuke the US, and because of the fact that the only possible way of even coming close to "winning" such an engagement, would require an overwhelming and all encompassing immediate strike, the numbers would be gross i.e., If America nuked Iran, 250+ million Americans would be dead in kind. And shortly there after another couple billion people worldwide no doubt.
Not just that, but Russia's been preparing for sometime. And unlike America its practical preparedness, typical of the Russians. When Americas Sending up experimental satellites, Russia is building underground shelters, like the massive one in Yamantau Mountain in the Urals.