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Post by galton on Jan 12, 2006 16:03:43 GMT -5
Think about it. He betrayed the NOI for his own ambition. So was Malcolm {X} Little an Uncle Tom?
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Post by galton on Jan 12, 2006 16:05:53 GMT -5
Well, there you have it. It's unanimous, so far.
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Post by Funky Kong on Jan 12, 2006 16:28:35 GMT -5
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Post by aroundtheworld on Jan 13, 2006 22:31:36 GMT -5
^^^That is so absurd and ridiculous. I did laugh a bit.
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 14, 2006 5:34:52 GMT -5
Think about it. He betrayed the NOI for his own ambition. So was Malcolm {X} Little an Uncle Tom? No, he wasn't an Uncle Tom, an Uncle Tom is a Negro for the white man, Malcolm was *NEVER* a tool with the white man and never betrayed the Nation but rather the immorality of the Nation's leader betrayed everything the Nation stood for. You don't know what an Uncle Tom you fool, so stop using that word.
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Post by galton on Jan 14, 2006 23:30:03 GMT -5
Think about it. He betrayed the NOI for his own ambition. So was Malcolm {X} Little an Uncle Tom? No, he wasn't an Uncle Tom, an Uncle Tom is a Negro for the white man, Malcolm was *NEVER* a tool with the white man and never betrayed the Nation but rather the immorality of the Nation's leader betrayed everything the Nation stood for. You don't know what an Uncle Tom you fool, so stop using that word. Malcolm may not have acted with conscious intent to undermine the NOI, but his actions led to its weakened state. The white man benefitted from Malcom Little's actions although he didn't act consciously in concert with the White Man. Malcolm Little became disloyal to the NOI for his own selfish reasons. He was an Uncle Tom. He torpedoed the NOI's ability to mount an effective Black Nationalist Movement. Malcolm Little was the one without any morals.
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 15, 2006 10:01:15 GMT -5
No, he wasn't an Uncle Tom, an Uncle Tom is a Negro for the white man, Malcolm was *NEVER* a tool with the white man and never betrayed the Nation but rather the immorality of the Nation's leader betrayed everything the Nation stood for. You don't know what an Uncle Tom you fool, so stop using that word. Malcolm may not have acted with conscious intent to undermine the NOI, but his actions led to its weakened state. The white man benefitted from Malcom Little's actions although he didn't act consciously in concert with the White Man. Malcolm Little became disloyal to the NOI for his own selfish reasons. He was an Uncle Tom. He torpedoed the NOI's ability to mount an effective Black Nationalist Movement. Malcolm Little was the one without any morals. The Nation was a bunch of disillusioned racists, far from being an effective Black nationalist Movement and Malcolm leaving the Nation did nothing to benefit the white man, because Malcolm was still a true black nationalist after he left the Nation and he didn't even allow whites to join his OAAU. Malolm left the Nation because its leader was a fraud who didn't practice what he preached. Apparently you have not read nor heard any of Malcolm's post-NOI speeches because you wouldn't be calling him an Uncle Tom[not to mention you don't know what an Uncle Tom really is, an Uncle Tom works in collusion with white racists to keep black people down and reaps the benefits directly for doing so.]
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 15, 2006 10:02:23 GMT -5
Your source is from a racist Jew website and Malcolm wasn't a homo.
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Post by anodyne on Jan 15, 2006 10:23:16 GMT -5
The website is shady but it's based on an article from The Guardian that reviewed the book on Malcom's supposed homosexuality. I don't know anything about the author to have an opinion and I'm not going to buy the book. Seems like a waste of time to read. Somewhat interesting but not enough to spend time on.
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 15, 2006 10:28:24 GMT -5
What I don't understand is how idiots try to dig up and or create dirt on Malcolm and Martin to discredit them but ignore the dirt of our so-called "founding fathers" of America. They owned slaves, yet a National Holiday is federal holiday, am I suppose to forget that George Washington owned slaves and kept my ancestors in slavery in 1776 and concentrate on him being a founding father?
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Post by Crimson Guard on Jan 15, 2006 10:44:35 GMT -5
Whats your point? Slaves where legal then and common practice,who cares..besides Negroid Africans sold their own kind to the whites..get off the soap box!
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 15, 2006 10:48:23 GMT -5
Whats your point? Slaves where legal then and common practice,who cares..besides Negroid Africans sold their own kind to the whites..get off the soap box! Thats not the point, I'm African-American first and foremost and the so-called founding fathers kept my people enslaved so how the hell do they expect me to celebrate 4th of July when my people were enslaved, which is an insult considering the fact that it was an African-America[Crispus Attucks] that was among the first to die for independence of the US.
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Post by anodyne on Jan 15, 2006 11:18:52 GMT -5
What I don't understand is how idiots try to dig up and or create dirt on Malcolm and Martin to discredit them but ignore the dirt of our so-called "founding fathers" of America. They owned slaves, yet a National Holiday is federal holiday, am I suppose to forget that George Washington owned slaves and kept my ancestors in slavery in 1776 and concentrate on him being a founding father? The dirty laundry of each of the founding fathers is out in the open for everyone to see. Crispus Atticus was tri racial.
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Post by galton on Jan 15, 2006 17:03:54 GMT -5
Getting back to Malcolm Little, his actions were, in an unconscious manner, in concert with the goals of the white establishment's plan. The plan was to hobble or weaken the Black Nationalist movement of the NOI. Malcolm Little's defection from the NOI and into a feaux Black activist movement that he created or not was the very thing that whitey needed to put the NOI in check. The NOI couldn't be dismantled completely, it was too big and powerful. It had to be knocked down a peg or two. Malcolm Little's defection from the NOI was a factor in this process. Malcolm Little was an Uncle Tom because his actions, intended or not, was traitorous to the NOI and helped the white establishiment in the long run.
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Post by anodyne on Jan 15, 2006 17:15:58 GMT -5
I don't understand how he was an Uncle Tom. He didn't like where the NOI was going or how its leader abused his power. He had legitimate concerns.
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