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Post by Mike the Jedi on Dec 16, 2005 21:17:45 GMT -5
Wow, the Papuan guy had me fooled. That would explain the nasal convexity, though. But some Negroids have that, too. And yes, genetically-speaking, Melanesians are apparently closer to Mongoloids than sub-Saharans. It's weird how that works.
As for the Eritrean girl, I'm not surprised she's a mixed Horner. She looks American.
And yeah, if that last guy is Sudanese, he definitely has Arabian mixture.
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Post by aroundtheworld on Dec 16, 2005 21:45:38 GMT -5
That Sudanese guy looks like an Afro-Brit or Afro-French or typical Mulattoid. in Europe.
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Post by Planet Asia on Dec 17, 2005 1:27:25 GMT -5
LOL..I said something like this before but IMO you gotta go with genetics because Physical Antropology involves alot of pseudo sciences. Well to tell the truth magneto, geneticists sometims can be pseudo-scientific because there determination as to what gene is sub-Saharan, Eurasian or East Asian could be just as arbitrary as anthropological labels.
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Post by Planet Asia on Dec 17, 2005 2:46:59 GMT -5
As an add on, I do not believe in a relative homogeneous Caucasoid race of people. Some Europeans and Iranians can overlap but there are still discernable differences between the two as is there is with Europeans and Middle Easterners. I think people need to stop taking "Caucasoid" unity from Europe to India as a given.
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Post by wadad on Dec 17, 2005 8:07:30 GMT -5
I dont see arabic admixture at all in the last Sudanese guy...more like Berber/Egyptian
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Post by magneto on Dec 17, 2005 8:16:13 GMT -5
I dont see arabic admixture at all in the last Sudanese guy...more like Berber/Egyptian wadad or does anyone else no what is the black/negroid element called in N Sudan??Is it Nilotic?I forgot to ask if modern day Nubians are hybrids what is the combo.Is it nilotic + upper egyptian or arab?
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Post by wadad on Dec 17, 2005 8:24:03 GMT -5
hey magneto how do you make images smaller?
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Post by magneto on Dec 17, 2005 8:30:13 GMT -5
hmmm..yea,I remember Cushite saying alot of N Sudanese looked like lighter AA's. I don't know what the code is on here to downsize the images.
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Post by wadad on Dec 17, 2005 8:37:16 GMT -5
Alright I'll re-post it again, smaller Pure Nilo Saharan: Nilo Saharan+arab/berberid:
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Post by magneto on Dec 17, 2005 9:41:08 GMT -5
Genetically and/or metrically classify them.. Mike the Jedi try this batch of people (anyone else can also if they want to) 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18.
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Post by wadad on Dec 17, 2005 9:52:50 GMT -5
1. Tutsi 2. Beja 3. Sioux 4. Somali 5. Malians 6. Tuareg 7. North Sudanese? 8. Punjabi/N.Indian 9. Mulattos? 10. North Sudan 11. South Indian? 12. Fijian 13 N. Indian 14 Quadroon? 15 Samoan 16 Fulani 17 Fulani 18 Saudi/Yemenis
I wont go into who's caucasian, who's negroid or mongoloid...since you deliberatley chose people that wouldnt fit easily into any particular classification
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Dec 17, 2005 10:25:00 GMT -5
1.) I'll also guess Tutsi because he doesn't really look like anything else 2.) East African of some sort, but I have a feeling he is from the Nile (perhaps somewhere in Egypt or Sudan) rather than the Horn... probably Nubian or Beja 3.) Plains Indian (Silvid?) 4.) Horners (Aethiopid) 5.) West African (finer-featured and pretty Sudanids) 6.) I'll guess Tuareg, also (elongated Negroid type with some likely Saharid admixture) 7.) one looks Indian, the other looks Horner 8.) Indian or Arab 9.) Not sure, but unlike Wadad, I don't think they're mulatta 10.) mixed Sudanese (Caucasoid + Negroid) 11.) not sure about this guy either, but unlike Wadad, I don't think he's Indian 12.) Oceanic? 13.) Indian, definitely 14.) scary quadroon 15.) Polynesian 16.) Dogon? 17.) Dogon? 18.) Arabs
You should really try these on Agrippa. He's the master at this sort of thing.
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Post by magneto on Dec 17, 2005 10:35:52 GMT -5
1.) I'll also guess Tutsi because he doesn't really look like anything else 2.) East African of some sort, but I have a feeling he is from the Nile (perhaps somewhere in Egypt or Sudan) rather than the Horn... probably Nubian or Beja 3.) Plains Indian (Silvid?) 4.) Horners (Aethiopid) 5.) West African (finer-featured and pretty Sudanids) 6.) I'll guess Tuareg, also (elongated Negroid type with some likely Saharid admixture) 7.) one looks Indian, the other looks Horner 8.) Indian or Arab 9.) Not sure, but unlike Wadad, I don't think they're mulatta 10.) mixed Sudanese (Caucasoid + Negroid) 11.) not sure about this guy either, but unlike Wadad, I don't think he's Indian 12.) Oceanic? 13.) Indian, definitely 14.) scary quadroon 15.) Polynesian 16.) Dogon? 17.) Dogon? 18.) Arabs You should really try these on Agrippa. He's the master at this sort of thing. Could you please put caucasoid,negroid or mongoloid next to each one? ;D I'll wait and see if Agrippa gives it a shot and then I'll tell you what's what.
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Post by Mike the Jedi on Dec 17, 2005 10:45:50 GMT -5
Some of them are mixtures so applying Negroid-Caucasoid-Mongoloid to them wouldn't work. And I'm sure you threw in another Papuan (Australoid) to confuse me, but I'll give it a shot based on the three-race tripartite:
Negroid: 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 9, 11, 16, 17 Caucasoid: 8, 13 (though that's debatable), 18 Mongoloid: 3 Hybrid: 6, 10, 12, 14, 15
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Post by Matt on Dec 17, 2005 12:41:55 GMT -5
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