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Dalic
Dec 7, 2005 13:18:21 GMT -5
Post by $$$ FD $$$ on Dec 7, 2005 13:18:21 GMT -5
Oliver Kahn is just a great example of a Dalofaelid - shows clearly the difference to Nordids (Skando- and Eastnordid) on the one hand, and the reduced-gracilised-infantilised Baltids on the other... Actually his face is too short to be considered a good example of Dalofaelid/Phalian. The "Brünns" on Coon's plates might be better examples. However, how would you classify the Irish "Upper Palaeolithic" types? Still Dalofaelid? Or another Cromagnid subvariety? irish brunnid types are identyfyable - as are typical irish looking features - the general direction is towards greater massiveness including the old british isles paleo europid amalgamated influences on other local variants that gave rise to such ethnic sequesters as 'composite irish men.' for brunnids their most critically deviant and identifyable feature is the relative lack of size reduction of the masticatory apparatus consisting of such traits as an unreduced mandibular size, heavy chin prominence, unreduced face size, great face breadth etc.
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Dalic
Dec 7, 2005 14:48:34 GMT -5
Post by One Humanity on Dec 7, 2005 14:48:34 GMT -5
However, how would you classify the Irish "Upper Palaeolithic" types? Still Dalofaelid? Or another Cromagnid subvariety? They have more parallels to Australoids I believe. Examples from Ireland I searched for: Very low middle face in combination with a high upper lip, too low vault seen frontally, slight open bite. Very robust forehead. Facial breadth. Rectangular face. Broad nose, resp. iris of the eye appears large. Alveolar prognathy. Large browridge. Wide interorbital distance. Too prominent skin or fat in the mouth area. Broad mouth. Younger and more leptosomic individuals, notice the higher middle face, higher orbits, fuller lips, higher-rooted nose, rectangular palate, less rugged features etc.:
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Synthesis
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Dec 9, 2005 15:41:26 GMT -5
Post by Synthesis on Dec 9, 2005 15:41:26 GMT -5
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Dec 9, 2005 15:46:51 GMT -5
Post by Glenlivet on Dec 9, 2005 15:46:51 GMT -5
Dalarna is like a mini Sweden, which is why Lundman made his dissertation on the people of Dalarna. But which is the main type in Dalarna? Coon put there Nordics and Cromagnids (Brünns), Lundman also "Paleoatlantids"!
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Dalic
Dec 9, 2005 22:26:13 GMT -5
Post by quarryman on Dec 9, 2005 22:26:13 GMT -5
And because of that Dalecarlia is more thoroughly studied than any other region. When you look, you find... It should be mentioned that Isidor Flodström a hundred years ago didn't find anything exceptional in Dalecarlia when making his extensive anthropological studies throughout Sweden (Flodström is the man behind the interesting division in "Sveatyp" and "Götatyp" in Scandinavia).
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Dalic
Dec 9, 2005 23:11:41 GMT -5
Post by Glenlivet on Dec 9, 2005 23:11:41 GMT -5
Indeed he is and Sveatyp is the same as Trönder. Lundman added Västmanlandstyp. And because of that Dalecarlia is more thoroughly studied than any other region. When you look, you find... It should be mentioned that Isidor Flodström a hundred years ago didn't find anything exceptional in Dalecarlia when making his extensive anthropological studies throughout Sweden (Flodström is the man behind the interesting division in "Sveatyp" and "Götatyp" in Scandinavia).
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Dec 10, 2005 8:05:08 GMT -5
Post by Synthesis on Dec 10, 2005 8:05:08 GMT -5
They have more parallels to Australoids I believe. I hope you are joking...
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Dalic
Dec 10, 2005 15:41:04 GMT -5
Post by Edwin on Dec 10, 2005 15:41:04 GMT -5
It is a strange statement from Gareth. Nordids are actually much closer to Australids than are Cromagnids, who are about as far away as you can get. All they share are browridges, which ultra-degenerate Negrids happen to lack, for some perspective.
Browridges are no more a primitive trait than are long fingers.
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Dalic
Dec 10, 2005 18:23:25 GMT -5
Post by One Humanity on Dec 10, 2005 18:23:25 GMT -5
They have more parallels to Australoids I believe. I hope you are joking... A bit of self-irony can't be wrong? I was not claiming the persons in the pictures are extremely Australoid. I spoke of parallels and elaborated which. Being a modern form of an old lineage is not something bad by itself obviously. Something Agrippa wrote at Skadi:
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Dalic
Dec 10, 2005 18:28:10 GMT -5
Post by Crimson Guard on Dec 10, 2005 18:28:10 GMT -5
Gareth,can you do me a favor,and let me know what did Lundman say on Sicily?
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Dalic
Dec 11, 2005 4:29:56 GMT -5
Post by One Humanity on Dec 11, 2005 4:29:56 GMT -5
Gareth,can you do me a favor,and let me know what did Lundman say on Sicily? Try to ask Glenlivet and Agrippa on this issue, they have copies of Lundman's books at home. I'm currently going to buy one or two of his books though and will be able to give you an answer later.
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Dalic
Dec 11, 2005 13:50:04 GMT -5
Post by Agrippa on Dec 11, 2005 13:50:04 GMT -5
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Dec 11, 2005 16:44:57 GMT -5
Post by Crimson Guard on Dec 11, 2005 16:44:57 GMT -5
OK Gareth, if theirs anything more of interest,please do get back to me when you get the chance.Thanks ! Agrippa! Thanks for the link..I had read that passage from the site once before.But I 'am, looking for something much more specific, indepth and detailed from him on the subject.That passage seemed very short,inconclusive and anecdotal. He used supposed history as Racial facts..While Genetics disprove that Mulitracial historical Sicily hogwash. However if we are to take what he mentions at beginning,then Sicily would be mainly just Mediterranean,alright. I dont want to sound like a pain in the ass,but I dont believe his books have yet been translated in English?As I dont read German,thats why I ask.
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Dalic
Dec 11, 2005 21:04:00 GMT -5
Post by Agrippa on Dec 11, 2005 21:04:00 GMT -5
Lundman is available in English - in fact many of his comments had to me a rather anecdotal character as well. At least he had a good eye usually.
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Dalic
Dec 11, 2005 22:52:07 GMT -5
Post by Crimson Guard on Dec 11, 2005 22:52:07 GMT -5
He is available in English then... Thought he wasn't,maybe their just rare.
<<in fact many of his comments had to me a rather anecdotal character as well. At least he had a good eye usually.>>
Thats disappointing,guess thats the way alot of them where/are.Pity!
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