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Post by cocacola on Jan 28, 2004 23:36:45 GMT -5
Of course children get darker as they age but these kids are usually northern pakistanis and the other few I posted were kids who had parents with light eyes.
For example, the last girl I posted is a girl I know personally. They are three sisters(all with blue eyes) and with lighteyed parents too.
Besides, I just posted them because the thread calls for lighteyed Aryan kids!
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Post by hodgson on Jan 29, 2004 11:45:24 GMT -5
>:(This must be the topic every one likes, bagging on Muslims. Lets not fool our self’s in to thinking the Iranian people are still part of a hidden minority of super human’s living among inferior Muslims. Without Islam in that area of the world, it would have ended up like America in 10 years from now, a true melting pot. Unlike The Christian culture and Hindu culture Muslim’s do not subjugate there populations to forced integration. If it were not for Islam there would be no Modern-day Iran, It would be like India, a huge hug mush of over 1000 ethnic groups. One of the reasons I my self became a Muslim was because of this reason, Europe is losing it’s national identity and I feel we would have lost it a long time ago if had not been for the Muslim shell surrounding the western world. As for the comment about Turks not developing anything, I fell this statement is said in stupidity and ignorance on par with evangelical mongering. The first cannon was developed in the Ottoman, as well as the first vaccine.  |
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Post by WB on Jan 29, 2004 14:49:43 GMT -5
Not all children are born with blue eyes.
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Post by HINDI on Jan 29, 2004 16:24:03 GMT -5
Beautiful children cocacola, I really like 'em real aryan kids, I'm an Indian my granddad has light blue eyes, looks really cool. I assume you're a Pakistani maybe Pathan?
Anyway feel free to post more pics of South Asian Aryans.. theek eh?
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Post by ramsharma on Jan 29, 2004 17:33:07 GMT -5
Uh excuse me, but let's keep in mind that North Western Pakistanis or even Kashmiris are central asians more than they're South Asians. They might be your so-called Aryan( Aryan Shmaryan up the wazoo), but they're not a good representation of a South Asian sample. Even black kids are born light. So what does that prove? I know a kid who was real light when he was 2-3 years old. Now he's about 8, and to me he doesn't look any different from your stereotypical Indian.
So getting hung up on blue eyed/blonde Indian is farcical! Stop it, you guys are a joke.
Supposedly the thread was about Iranian eyes...
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Post by geirr on Jan 29, 2004 19:50:03 GMT -5
So getting hung up on blue eyed/blonde Indian is farcical! Stop it, you guys are a joke. Supposedly the thread was about Iranian eyes... I agree. |
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Post by cocacola on Jan 29, 2004 21:20:10 GMT -5
Uh excuse me, but let's keep in mind that North Western Pakistanis or even Kashmiris are central asians more than they're South Asians. They might be your so-called Aryan( Aryan Shmaryan up the wazoo), but they're not a good representation of a South Asian sample. Even black kids are born light. So what does that prove? I know a kid who was real light when he was 2-3 years old. Now he's about 8, and to me he doesn't look any different from your stereotypical Indian. So getting hung up on blue eyed/blonde Indian is farcical! Stop it, you guys are a joke. Supposedly the thread was about Iranian eyes... LOL Ramsharma. Pakistan is part of south asia not central asia. Even in looks, central asians are much more mongoloid in their appearance. I wasnt trying to prove that South Asians are white or anything. LOL The average southasian is brown and a tiny minority is white and they are more prevalent in Pakistan. The topic was about blueeyed "Aryan" kids and I posted some. To HINDI, I am half Pathan half Punjabi. BTW, the only reason I or anyone else would post pictures of blue eyed southasians is because they are exceptions. Of course, I have seen MANY lighteyed Pakistanis but no one would be interested if I put up a picture of your stereotypical southasian with brown eyes black hair and brown skin. Would you? |
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Post by ramsharma on Jan 29, 2004 22:12:58 GMT -5
LOL Ramsharma. Pakistan is part of south asia not central asia. Even in looks, central asians are much more mongoloid in their appearance. I wasnt trying to prove that South Asians are white or anything. LOL The average southasian is brown and a tiny minority is white and they are more prevalent in Pakistan. The topic was about blueeyed "Aryan" kids and I posted some. To HINDI, I am half Pathan half Punjabi. BTW, the only reason I or anyone else would post pictures of blue eyed southasians is because they are exceptions. Of course, I have seen MANY lighteyed Pakistanis but no one would be interested if I put up a picture of your stereotypical southasian with brown eyes black hair and brown skin. Would you? You basically misunderstood me. Of course Pakistan is in South Asia, everybody knows that, but technically speaking, Pashtuns are Afghans, and Kashmiris are VERY related to Afghans. In fact the two could be considered to be interchangeable. Having said that, everybody should be cognizant of the fact that Afghanistan is NOT South Asia. This should completely refute the notion that Central Asia is more mongoloid in appearance. Exactly, those that look white would be found in Pakistan, but their origin is not SOUTH ASIAN, it's Central Asian or West Asian. Punjabis, on the other hand, are of course of South Asian stock. Most of them cannot be mistaken for any other ethnic group but South Asian, except perhaps in the periphery, where they have absorbed significant outsiders. Aryan is a meaningless word..it can be slung however one wishes. So, please don't get too enamored by this useless word. Yes, I would be interested..even among the brown South Asians, there is so much diversity. |
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Post by geirr on Jan 29, 2004 22:28:22 GMT -5
BTW, the only reason I or anyone else would post pictures of blue eyed southasians is because they are exceptions. Of course, I have seen MANY lighteyed Pakistanis but no one would be interested if I put up a picture of your stereotypical southasian with brown eyes black hair and brown skin. Would you? I find this sort of thing annoying, why wouldn't people be interested? Because their eyes are dark? This sort of Indian 'upper caste' prejudice is absurd. |
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Post by Razmig on Jan 30, 2004 5:47:55 GMT -5
I find this sort of thing annoying, why wouldn't people be interested? Because their eyes are dark? This sort of Indian 'upper caste' prejudice is absurd. You don't know what happens in those countries. Christian minorities (Armenians in my case) have been molested and, raped, and forcefully adopted by the Iranians. A lot of these countries are literally "sexually obssesed" with light features, and many of the people there seem to exadurate their history amongst other things. In Iran there are 70 million people, thats plenty to produce a few light eyed individuals, however it is very rare and quite often of Armenian, Russian, German, Kurdish or even Greek extraction (modern day Iran). |
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Post by HINDI on Jan 30, 2004 12:55:20 GMT -5
ramsharma you must be one of them Aryan hating Dravidians..obviously with a last name like sharma lol
I agree with cocacola, part of my ancestors are from the Pakistani part of the Punjab (partition) and light eyes and white skin is a common thing among us...even though Pashtuns are Muslims nowadays I respect them more then you Aryan-hating Dravidians my ancestors conquered..You Dravidians are as useless and non-Aryan as Nordics..
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Post by Razmig on Jan 30, 2004 16:56:00 GMT -5
ramsharma you must be one of them Aryan hating Dravidians..obviously with a last name like sharma lol I agree with cocacola, part of my ancestors are from the Pakistani part of the Punjab (partition) and light eyes and white skin is a common thing among us...even though Pashtuns are Muslims nowadays I respect them more then you Aryan-hating Dravidians my ancestors conquered..You Dravidians are as useless and non-Aryan as Nordics.. Your a dellusional jackass. |
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Post by ramsharma on Jan 30, 2004 17:40:23 GMT -5
ramsharma you must be one of them Aryan hating Dravidians..obviously with a last name like sharma lol I agree with cocacola, part of my ancestors are from the Pakistani part of the Punjab (partition) and light eyes and white skin is a common thing among us...even though Pashtuns are Muslims nowadays I respect them more then you Aryan-hating Dravidians my ancestors conquered..You Dravidians are as useless and non-Aryan as Nordics.. You don't know squat about South Asia. Someone who doesn't know Sharma is an upperclass Hindu surname cannot be an Indian. I think you're a freaking gypsy. As I said, there was an Indian guy over at a different forum who claimed he looked Sicilian. He posted his pic and he looked nothing like I imagined he would look like from the impression he gave me. He looked like a quintessentian Indian of course. Amusingly, he claimed Sicilians were the ones mistaking him for a Sicilian. This sort of blindness is what makes idiots like you think you're white. |
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Post by cocacola on Jan 30, 2004 18:23:23 GMT -5
I find this sort of thing annoying, why wouldn't people be interested? Because their eyes are dark? This sort of Indian 'upper caste' prejudice is absurd. Really you would be? The thing is most indians are brown haired brown eyed and very 'indian' looking and then there would be no point of guessing their origin because everyone would know what they are. I am not upper caste indian(LOL) and not prejudiced at all but its more fun putting up pictures of 'rare' people than it is putting up pictures of people who are the norm. Ramsharma- I dont really care about the Aryan theory. Its just another word for me. Pashtuns are called Afghans but seriously you should come to family dinners at my house to see how SOME pashtuns dislike afghans and dont like to be called that. Most afghans and pakistani pathans are like brothers though. Central Asians(Kazakhs, Turkmens, Hazara, Kyrghyz etc.) are mainly Turanid or Mongoloid. Punjabis are interesting. From personal experience of seeing many Sikh Punjabis. They are usually all tall and have stronger features than other Indians. They have thick hair growth. Their skin is light brown but dark brown is also quite common. Some have white skin. Their eyes are usually a rich brown colour but green-brown and green can be seen too. Only three Punjabis(full) I saw had clear blue eyes.(adults). Their noses were usually prominent and some had hook noses too. I have seen quite a few combinations of tall stature, lighteyes and light skin among these people but then again there are literally tons of them who are darkskinned with dark eyes. "As I said, there was an Indian guy over at a different forum who claimed he looked Sicilian. He posted his pic and he looked nothing like I imagined he would look like from the impression he gave me." LOL! This reminds me of all those matrimonial websites where everyone claims to be "Fair skinned" but are very far from it. |
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Post by Graeme on Jan 31, 2004 9:46:54 GMT -5
Nice kids. Who are the ugly types in the smaller pictures? Mostly the adults look conventionally Iranian that is dark.
Someone posted a picture that appeared in the National Geographic of the green eyed Afghan woman. She wasn't Irani!
I have to agree with the person who said that the Kashmiris, Pathans etc are Central Asian. Central Asia and West Asia are practically the same. Central Asian people such as Kazakhs, Kirgiz do speak Turkic languages and mongoloid features are common, but they are of mixed race. Those regions are where Caucasoids and Mongoloids overlap. So blue eyed light skinned people with mongolian features are not uncommon. There are mongoloid types in Afghanistan some pure Mongols some mixed like the Hazara people. Personally speaking I prefer brown skinned, dark haired, dark eyed Indians, Iranis and Pakistanis. The light ones look out of place except in mountain valleys with continental climates with lots of fog and snow and a cool annual climate. There is no survival value for light skin etc on the hot, dusty and sunburnt plains of parts of India, Iran, Afghanistan or Pakistan. Anyway I unfortunately associate fair skin etc with evil, satanic. Can't tell you why? So all those pictures of the fair ones turn me off. I am European, a southerner with dark brown hair, mostly brown eyes and a medium complexion - light pinkish brown. I am short at 176 cm.
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