Cyrus
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Post by Cyrus on Dec 19, 2003 10:02:58 GMT -5
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Post by HINDI on Dec 19, 2003 11:11:18 GMT -5
Gorgeous REAL Aryan children!
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Post by rusalka on Dec 19, 2003 13:03:05 GMT -5
Beautiful children and gorgeus shades of eyes indeed!
The Iranian people I've met here in the US, especially women, tend to have very beautiful eyes too. I'm not talking about the color. And I don't want to stereotype, even if it's a positive thing, but most of the people had a similar eye shape that is very large and almond in appearence. Is it very common in Iran too?
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Post by Cyrus on Dec 19, 2003 15:43:01 GMT -5
Yes but mostly in center and north of Iran. As you know there are many non-Iranian people (Mongols, Turks, Arabs, Assyrians, ...) in East and South of Iran.
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Post by HINDI on Dec 19, 2003 16:49:32 GMT -5
What exactly are present day Assyrians?
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Post by Melnorme on Dec 19, 2003 18:14:17 GMT -5
What exactly are present day Assyrians? They are Iraqi Christians.
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Post by rusalka on Dec 19, 2003 18:25:39 GMT -5
They are Iraqi Christians. Is it what comes to "Suryani" as they're called in Turkish, I wonder.. If that's the case, the ones in Turkey at least, are from Syria. They're one of the oldest groups of Christians, have their own Church and language, but they're almost all extinct, either immigrated to the USA, or assimilated due to intermarriage or low birth rates. They live in Southeastern Turkey (of course), and there are some in Istanbul as well.
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Post by Melnorme on Dec 19, 2003 18:33:32 GMT -5
Is it what comes to "Suryani" as they're called in Turkish, I wonder.. If that's the case, the ones in Turkey at least, are from Syria. They're one of the oldest groups of Christians, have their own Church and language, but they're almost all extinct, either immigrated to the USA, or assimilated due to intermarriage or low birth rates. They live in Southeastern Turkey (of course), and there are some in Istanbul as well. Islam's Other Victims : Wars Against Christians www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=5230Note: here is a brief list of the surviving Christian communities of the Middle East [ he should say 'Arab world', rather than Middle East ], courtesy of ArabicBible.com. Egypt: The Copts of Egypt -- Orthodox, Catholics, and Protestants -- are estimated to be between 10 and 12 million, dispersed across the country. They are the descendants of the ancient Egyptian people living under the Pharaohs. Their numbers shrank after the Arab-Moslem invasion in 740 A.D. and flourished under the British in the 19th century. One million Copts live in the diaspora, particularly in the United States and Canada. Sudan: Seven million black Africans live in the south. Most of these tribes are Christians-Anglicans, other Protestants, and Catholics. After the Islamic conquest, the Africans of Nubia were displaced to the south. Since the Islamist takeover in the north in 1989, they have been submitted to ethnic cleansing and forced to abandon their faith in order to protect their lives. One million south Sudanese are living in exile. Lebanon: The Christians --Maronites, Orthodox, Melkites, and others, including Protestants -- number about 1.5 million. Since 1975, hundreds of thousands have been massacred, displaced, and exiled. Since 1990, the Christian areas of Lebanon have been under Syrian occupation. There are more than 7 million Lebanese Christians in the diaspora. More than 1.5 million Americans are of Lebanese descent. Iraq: About 1 million Christian Assyrians, Nestorians, Chaldeans, and others live in Iraq. Most are concentrated in the north. The Assyrians are submitted to cultural and political repression. Approximately 1 million Christian Mesopotamians live in North America, Europe, and Australia. Syria: One million Christians are Syrian citizens. Deprived of cultural and educational rights, Syria's Aramaeans, Armenians, Orthodox, and Melkites are present in the northeast and in the major cities. Iran: Five hundred thousand Persian, Armenian, and Assyrian Christians from all denominations live in constant fear under the Islamic Republic of Iran. Christian spiritual leaders are executed by the government. There is slightly greater tolerance for varieties of Christianity that pre-date Islam in Persia.
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Post by rusalka on Dec 19, 2003 20:00:45 GMT -5
I think the reason why Turkey is not among these countries is either it's not considered to be in the Middle East; or the populations of these people (Assyrian, Maronite, Coptic, Nasturian are the ones that I know to exist) are indeed very low as to be not mentioned at all.
I know that in the predominantly Muslim areas of Souteastern Turkey (and the people there are really religious) the indigenous Christian population is put into a difficult position. I have read a couple of article series when I was back in Turkey that especially during and after the 90s almost all the young population left the area and the ones that remained were the really old people. The young people left because there's terror, they can't find jobs and also they're not favored because of their religion. These people and their cultures will probably become extinct. I know for a fact that their language was listed as one of the dying languages of the area, taken over by Arabic and Turkish, probably.
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Post by AWAR on Dec 19, 2003 23:10:39 GMT -5
Cute kids! I gotta post them on Skadi, just to see the reaction. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by HINDI on Dec 20, 2003 1:21:54 GMT -5
Yes barbarian Turks destroyed many things.. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Any Greek,Slav,Iranian,Indian etc. will agree.. Sometimes I ask myself..these Turks ,they occupied many lands..but what did they contribute to human civilisation..nothing really..
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Post by Razmig on Jan 18, 2004 6:56:10 GMT -5
I wonder what percentage of those kids are Armenians...if 60% of Irans singers are Armenian...not considering how many Armenian women Iranians raped and forced to be the wives of...if they are Iranian women theyll most likely end up like this lady... ![](http://www.mullings.com/afghan8-30.jpg)
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Post by Razmig on Jan 18, 2004 7:23:50 GMT -5
Yes but mostly in center and north of Iran. As you know there are many non-Iranian people (Mongols, Turks, Arabs, Assyrians, ...) in East and South of Iran. Northwest Iran is overwhelmingly Azeris and Turkcomans, can you explain that? There are more Farsi speakers in the South bordering Iraq and Pakistan
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Post by Razmig on Jan 18, 2004 7:26:47 GMT -5
They are Iraqi Christians. Right...anyways...Assyrians come mostly from Syria, called Assuri, and the East are Ashuri (from Iraq and Iran). They are the body of the Syrian phoenotype.
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Post by Razmig on Jan 18, 2004 7:28:45 GMT -5
I think the reason why Turkey is not among these countries is either it's not considered to be in the Middle East; or the populations of these people (Assyrian, Maronite, Coptic, Nasturian are the ones that I know to exist) are indeed very low as to be not mentioned at all. I know that in the predominantly Muslim areas of Souteastern Turkey (and the people there are really religious) the indigenous Christian population is put into a difficult position. I have read a couple of article series when I was back in Turkey that especially during and after the 90s almost all the young population left the area and the ones that remained were the really old people. The young people left because there's terror, they can't find jobs and also they're not favored because of their religion. These people and their cultures will probably become extinct. I know for a fact that their language was listed as one of the dying languages of the area, taken over by Arabic and Turkish, probably. Theres a song written about Giligian Armenia, called Zim kizi zu hogh ker gertas? meaning, why do you leave your lands? A lot of Tartars and Kurds are buying up Armenian lands...sad trip
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