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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 27, 2006 15:57:48 GMT -5
Admixture is still too high to be considered non-significant. Add to that Amerindian admixture, and that makes AA´s a mixed-race population. American Indian mixture is far lower and negiligible, not even close to even being considered as admixture. We are *NOT* a mixed race people. |
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Post by eufrenio on Jan 27, 2006 16:02:16 GMT -5
So what does over 10 % non-negroid admixture make you?
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 27, 2006 16:06:34 GMT -5
So what does over 10 % non-negroid admixture make you? What do you mean by "non-Negroid" mixture? I may have some *NON-AFRICAN* ancestry genetically speaking, but it doesn't make me mixed race, remember those people from Cameroon with up to 95% R*-M173? They most certainly are not a mixed race people. |
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Post by Agrippa on Jan 27, 2006 17:10:11 GMT -5
Cameroon is somewhat different though, its in the Negrid core area even, though very minor admixture might exist even there, like this woman: www.publicanthropology.org/images/Journals/Cameroon-Bororo%20woman%20portrait2%20(XXX).jpgThis team is more typical though and can be even considered being fully typical Negrids (mostly Sudanid-Palaenegrid):   How many Negrids of that purity do you see in the USA? No rhetoric question... Negrid Cameroon woman which is relatively harmonious:  Pred. Sudanid children from Cameroon:  |
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Post by magneto on Jan 27, 2006 22:03:43 GMT -5
AA's are nowhere close to being mulattos and I wouldn't call them mixed race either.They pred West African w/ small amount of admx.Most wouldn't look out of place in areas of upper WA in Mali,Niger,Burkina Faso etc..
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Post by Agrippa on Jan 28, 2006 12:29:21 GMT -5
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Post by human2 on Jan 28, 2006 20:57:51 GMT -5
Agrippa, would consider Scandanavia to be a mixed race region? By your standards, there is significant "Mongoloid" heritage there. Even Iranians have 9% East Eurasian mtDNA lineages. Do you consider them to be mixed raced?
You keep talking about admixture here or there except in West Eurasia.
The real truth is that East Asia is for practical purposes free of West Eurasian "influence" while many places of Europe and the Middle East are not.
So... are these places in Europe mixed-raced? Yes or no?
This is hilarious.
That would make Dolf "Mongoloid".
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Post by Agrippa on Jan 28, 2006 21:08:04 GMT -5
The Lapps are of mixed race so to say and the Lappid type could be considered a contact type. Lappid and Westsibirid are both contact types (between Europid and Mongolid [Tungid])
There is a Thread about Lapps on Skadi and Eastbaltids are borderline but still Europeans.
However, I wrote in other threads that I dont consider genetic admixture being of importance as long as it doesnt influence the phenotype, neither in the individual nor in its offspring. To me, after that definition, a 25 percent Mongolid individual would be preferable to a 12,5 one if the later would show strong signs of admixture, especially if this would be from a general perspective (like in Lappids) rather negative (non progressive).
F.e. some Nordid-Sinid mixed people are progressive, contrary to Lappids, that comparison would be a difficult question with many things to consider.
Basically the places are not "mixed raced" but individuals are. Race is about specialisation to me first and before all - inherited feature combinations which show up in the phenotype.
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Post by human2 on Jan 28, 2006 21:10:49 GMT -5
The Lapps are of mixed race so to say and the Lappid type could be considered a contact type. Lappid and Westsibirid are both contact types (between Europid and Mongolid [Tungid]) There is a Thread about Lapps on Skadi and Eastbaltids are borderline but still Europeans. I'm not talking about Lapps you cowardly little hypocrite. You keep claiming "Nordid-Sinids", whatever that means, as mixed. They/we are not. |
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Post by Agrippa on Jan 28, 2006 21:29:41 GMT -5
I'm not talking about Lapps you cowardly little hypocrite. No reason for insults. Lappids are just the pure representatives, Eastbaltids might be the mixed ones (partly mixed). Erm, please read it again: Nordid-Sinid = Nordid (Nordic, f.e. Swede) + Sinid (Nord or Mittelsinid, f.e. Northern-Central Chinese) and an "Swede-Chinese Eurasian" is mixed, thats for sure... So I didnt referred to Nordsinid but European-East Asian mixed people...obviously not Tungid, the results are different then...I spoke about recent race mixture, f.e. in the USA, Europe etc... |
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Post by human2 on Jan 28, 2006 21:41:13 GMT -5
No reason for insults. Lappids are just the pure representatives, Eastbaltids might be the mixed ones (partly mixed). I've insulted you few times if at all. This is just honesty. Truth. You don't like it. But it's the nature of pain and it's good for you. Comon, you imply you are a Neitzche (I'm not going to bother to look up his correct spelling) expert. He talks about the nature and goodness of pain alot. Oh, how embarassing.  I'm so used to seeing "Nordsinid". ;D |
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Post by harri on Jan 28, 2006 22:10:56 GMT -5
Lappids are just the pure representatives, Eastbaltids might be the mixed ones (partly mixed). Maybe I have missed out on something but "Lappids" are hardly a pure representative of anything. I mean if you're referring to Saami here. |
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Post by magneto on Jan 28, 2006 23:42:39 GMT -5
Would be interesting to prove where most American slaves came from, I doubt the majority came from such areas but rather from Ivory Coast and on. In N America the slaves mostly came from all over West Africa. -alot from coastal areas of Ghana,Nigeria,Liberia,Ivory Coast etc.. -Some from Angola and South East Africa -In parts of the Carolinas they came from Senegal and Sierra Leone for rice growing -Louisianna they came from Mali and other neighboring areas like Senegal and Niger Some Westernized Malians       - |
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Post by Agrippa on Jan 29, 2006 10:51:58 GMT -5
Maybe I have missed out on something but "Lappids" are hardly a pure representative of anything. I mean if you're referring to Saami here. True. I referred to them as being as an ethnic group the strongst Mongoloid influenced element of the region and that via contacts and mixture with those "Uralics" similar elements came into other populations. Ys, that should be the main part, mostly Sudanid with (Northern) Palaenegrid. Sudanid: Eddie Murphy, Wesley Snipes, Whoopi Goldberg (with minor Palaenegrid). I knew that too, mostly Kafrid/Bantuid from there, a good example would be, though he might have small Europoid admixture, Denzel Washington. Mostly Sudanid again, but with minor traces of mixture. Since I assume not too much Tuaregs or Tubu were sold, we can say that Sudanid should have been dominant again. Would depend on who was selling and who was sold. Sudanid is clearly dominant, some might show non-Negroid influences whether by specialisation or admixture. |
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 29, 2006 11:21:37 GMT -5
All of these subjective bankrupt terms, lol.
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I'm so used to seeing "Nordsinid". ;D