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Post by mhagneto on Jan 27, 2006 2:37:01 GMT -5
/ Wanna bet a million bucks you're not black? Gee, you must wonder how I know?! This is what your whole argument against people who don't side Dienekes here is all based on. Wow, a guy disagrees with Dienekes on smething so he must be black, way to go. The whole of stormfront disagrees with Pontikos as well as two Russians that used to post here, are they also blacks posing as something else? I've seen human2, a Chinese guy here, disagree with Pontikos, do you mean to tell me that everyone who disagrees with Pontikos is some internet troll with a racist ideological agenda? Your arguments are just silly ad-hominem attacks and snothing more. / It's not that I would agree with everthing D writes, it's that your positions are often so preposterous, there's no contest. As I said before, your use of language shows your lack of logic. (Example: your comment that WEurasians are closer by genetic - Fst-- distance to NE Afs than NE Afs are to WEurasians, which is a logical impossibility). I think you've got delusions of grandeur about your intelligence. Where in the world did you get the idea that you're as smart as Dienekes? Where did you get the idea that you were smart, period? You're schooling, your career, your SAT scores or IQ? BTW, did you check out the science blogs that cite Dienekes? How about DNAanthro. These are working geneticists, and they often refer to D's blog.They take him seriously. Would they take you seriously? They'd know immediately that you weren't in D's league intellectually. And they'd be right. I'm not saying you're stupid, Charlie, and I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, but you really need more logic and less emotion if you're going to speak with any authority at all on these issues. Even more important, try a little modesty. About the guy who "must be black"; it's not because he disagrees with D, it's the way he disagrees. Utterly transparent, and you know yourself that this guy is black. And I'm supposed to take stormfront seriously? C'mon! There might be some issues where I make objection to D, but you're pet obssession is not one of them.
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 27, 2006 2:48:17 GMT -5
It's not that I would agree with everthing D writes, it's that your positions are often so preposterous, there's no contest. As I said before, your use of language shows your lack of logic. I think you've got delusions of grandeur about your intelligence. Where in the world did you get the idea that you're as smart as Dienekes? Where did you get the idea that you were smart, period? You're schooling, your career, your SAT scores or IQ? BTW, did you check out the science blogs that cite Dienekes? How about DNAanthro. These are working geneticists, and they often refer to D's blog.They take him seriously. Would they take you seriously? They'd know immediately that you weren't in D's league intellectually. And they'd be right. I'm not saying you're stupid, Charlie, and I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, but you really need more logic and less emotion if you're going to speak with any authority at all on these issues. Even more important, try a little modesty. About the guy who "must be black"; it's not because he disagrees with D, it's the way he disagrees. Utterly transparent, and you know yourself that this guy is black. And I'm supposed to take stormfront seriously? C'mon! Yeah pal, keep believing that Dienekes is so much smarter than me simply because you disagree with what I say eventhough I supply sources and communicate with the professionals myself. I'm not going to continue this nutcase of an argument because Pontikos is a man that can speak for himself.
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 27, 2006 3:03:16 GMT -5
The way someone disagrees makes them black, wow a breakthrough in racial identification of people over the internet, maybe this should get published in the AJPA. I'm not interested in hearing your Dienkes worship any longer and how anyone who disagrees are all intellectually not on his level, as if you know.
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Post by mhagneto on Jan 27, 2006 3:08:52 GMT -5
It's not that I would agree with everthing D writes, it's that your positions are often so preposterous, there's no contest. As I said before, your use of language shows your lack of logic. I think you've got delusions of grandeur about your intelligence. Where in the world did you get the idea that you're as smart as Dienekes? Where did you get the idea that you were smart, period? You're schooling, your career, your SAT scores or IQ? BTW, did you check out the science blogs that cite Dienekes? How about DNAanthro. These are working geneticists, and they often refer to D's blog.They take him seriously. Would they take you seriously? They'd know immediately that you weren't in D's league intellectually. And they'd be right. I'm not saying you're stupid, Charlie, and I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, but you really need more logic and less emotion if you're going to speak with any authority at all on these issues. Even more important, try a little modesty. About the guy who "must be black"; it's not because he disagrees with D, it's the way he disagrees. Utterly transparent, and you know yourself that this guy is black. And I'm supposed to take stormfront seriously? C'mon! Yeah pal, keep believing that Dienekes is so much smarter than me simply because you disagree with what I say eventhough I supply sources and communicate with the professionals myself. I'm not going to continue this nutcase of an argument because Pontikos is a man that can speak for himself. / It's not because you disagree- dont flatter yourself- it's because you dont know how to think. You depend on "opinions", not logic. It's quite simple, really. Dienekes is smarter than you are, and so am I. You're right , there's no use continuing this sham "argument" (there is no argument). You can have the last word, if it makes you feel better. You know what I think./ PS BTW, as I said before, we both know the guy is black, only you'd be offended by how I know. It doesn't take a scientist to know these things, does it Charlie?
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Post by Ilmatar on Jan 27, 2006 11:25:43 GMT -5
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 27, 2006 11:31:24 GMT -5
What about those papers? There's nothing out of place about them, except for Rosa et al saying that Fulani have Berber linguistic elements which is not true.
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Post by king3 on Jan 27, 2006 12:57:40 GMT -5
This is the problem with this forum. Only "Black" people disagree with Dienekes. I have to say their is no contest between Planet Asia and Dienekes. You cant compare a guy who emalis people to get accurate information to a person who just makes up information as he goes along. All the debates Planet Asia and Dienekes have Planet Asia has won the debates if you don't believe me just take a look at those debates. The problem I have with Dienekes is he is too quick to ban people who disaree with him.
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Post by mmmkay on Jan 27, 2006 13:52:59 GMT -5
Translation: I have no argument nor an able response to any of his comments so I'm resorting to an ad-hominem attack (as always) in an attempt to write-off the validity of his criticisms.
Thats all the people of Dodona ever do. Your site is not a joke because you disagree with my points, its becuase you provide no serious or valid defense to back up your own claims. Cut out the insanity (doing same thing over and expecting different results) and provide proper counter-arguments based upon peer-review and objectivity and base it not on someone elses understanding (i.e. dienikes) but your own.
Don't be his cronies, speak for yourself.
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Post by Melani2333 on Jan 27, 2006 16:50:15 GMT -5
Translation: I have no argument nor an able response to any of his comments so I'm resorting to an ad-hominem attack (as always) in an attempt to write-off the validity of his criticisms. Thats all the people of Dodona ever do. Your site is not a joke because you disagree with my points, its becuase you provide no serious or valid defense to back up your own claims. Cut out the insanity (doing same thing over and expecting different results) and provide proper counter-arguments based upon peer-review and objectivity and base it not on someone elses understanding (i.e. dienikes) but your own. Don't be his cronies, speak for yourself. **Applause**
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Post by Arthur_Eld on Jan 27, 2006 17:50:59 GMT -5
You keep repeating yourself, but you are still here and so is Planet Asia.
Stop nagging.
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Post by anodyne on Jan 27, 2006 18:17:46 GMT -5
PLANET ASIA:
There's no point of bringing it up because there is no proof of him ever responding. By the way, I'm not attacking you. I'm simply pointing out that you can't state that he gave you particular information to anyone unless you can show evidence that he did, which I don't think is possible.
They wear their agenda on their sleeves. So what does it matter?
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Post by rossi on Jan 27, 2006 19:34:45 GMT -5
Moderator: Please delete this thread. Thank you.
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 27, 2006 22:28:30 GMT -5
PLANET ASIA: There's no point of bringing it up because there is no proof of him ever responding. By the way, I'm not attacking you. I'm simply pointing out that you can't state that he gave you particular information to anyone unless you can show evidence that he did, which I don't think is possible. They wear their agenda on their sleeves. So what does it matter? The proof that I communicated with him is that I had his recently published study *BEFORE* it was published, at least 4 months prior, now where else would I be able to obtain it? END OF STORY!
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Post by anodyne on Jan 27, 2006 22:39:57 GMT -5
Link the thread and we can look at the date. Posting such evidence would shut everyone up. It's to your benefit. I just find it odd that he would email you, a stranger, the study before it gets published. That doesn't seem believable.
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 28, 2006 9:05:27 GMT -5
Link the thread and we can look at the date. Posting such evidence would shut everyone up. It's to your benefit. I just find it odd that he would email you, a stranger, the study before it gets published. That doesn't seem believable. Look at this thread I started on egyptsearch on October 8th last year. www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=002687The study didn't become published and available till January this year. And if you need further confirmation you can ask human2 and even go to his board. Now you still want to be a doubter?
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