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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 26, 2006 13:56:07 GMT -5
Dienekes is cited by many science blogs, how many cite ES? Dienekes is a layman? Which blogs cite him and are they fellow laymen or professionals? Are they citing his views as fact? last time I checked, Dienekes isn't an anthropologists nor is he a geneticist. Being cited by fellow laymen science blogs does not make him a professional or his views correct. By asking the actual geneticists and anthropologists about their studies and what they actually mean, it allows me to post their actual views , not a layman's interpretation what is perceived. C. Loring Brace is the perfect example of this[since europhiles like to quote him as some type of absolute and final authority on Ancient Egyptians], when I emailed him he said people like Somalis and Nubians are Elongated Africans, not intermediate hybrids like Dienekes once claimed. the same with Dr. Jim Wilson who's study Dienekes totally misrepresented. I ask for the actual views and meaning of hat these guys publish, thats something I've rarely, if ever, saw Dienekes do. Thats the difference between me and Dienekes. |
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Post by mmmkay on Jan 26, 2006 14:12:52 GMT -5
Ahh yes dienekes the God of anthroplogy and genetics, of whom has *infinite* knowledge pertaining, who are we as petty mortals to question his awesome insights?
It not so much that he only "cares" about blacks, it's that it seems hes constantly defending them on this board in a seemingly neverending struggle. Obviously that is an exercise in futility seeing as people here seem to harbor rather changeless biases in regards. What is it with blacks and jews here? The obessesion is just un-healthy.
Who are you to presume they don't? The very "pomposity" you claim to oppose seems to come through in your posts.
Basically what your really saying is becuase they don't agree with you, or your viewpoint of race/genetics, they just have no "background" or training in anything worth mention. Which, ofcourse is non-sequitor. If not all-knowing one, prove it, or shut up.
"Scientists" do not have *agendas*, they are interested only in the truth, if not they are not "scientists" but something else entirely.
Good day.
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Post by mhagneto on Jan 26, 2006 14:38:28 GMT -5
Ahh yes dienekes the God of anthroplogy and genetics, of whom has *infinite* knowledge pertaining, who are we as petty mortals to question his awesome insights? It not so much that he only "cares" about blacks, it's that it seems hes constantly defending them on this board in a seemingly neverending struggle. Obviously that is an exercise in futility seeing as people here seem to harbor rather changeless biases in regards. What is it with blacks and jews here? The obessesion is just un-healthy. Who are you to presume they don't? The very "pomposity" you claim to oppose seems to come through in your posts. Basically what your really saying is becuase they don't agree with you, or your viewpoint of race/genetics, they just have no "background" or training in anything worth mention. Which, ofcourse is non-sequitor. If not all-knowing one, prove it, or shut up. "Scientists" do not have *agendas*, they are interested only in the truth, if not they are not "scientists" but something else entirely. Good day. / Another defender of negritude opines, this one from the far left side of the bell curve. |
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Post by king3 on Jan 26, 2006 14:41:13 GMT -5
I am from Egyptsearch I post under KING. I have to say that I find dodona harder to understand then Egyptsearch. On dodona you can get banned for saying things that are against what Dienekes thinks and to tell you the truth most of what Dienekes says about africa is not right. The only reason I post on Dodona is because I like to see people who know the truth post but sometimes they also get banned. Dodona is a website for southern europeans to prove they are just as white as Northern europeans. If the guys at Egyptsearch are so wrong then why does not people from dodona go and own them the way that Planet Asia owns Dodona. As for E3b it is African underived E3b is found only in Africans and these are africans from southern africa like the Kwhe
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Post by mhagneto on Jan 26, 2006 14:50:18 GMT -5
Which blogs cite him and are they fellow laymen or professionals? Are they citing his views as fact? last time I checked, Dienekes isn't an anthropologists nor is he a geneticist. Being cited by fellow laymen science blogs does not make him a professional or his views correct. By asking the actual geneticists and anthropologists about their studies and what they actually mean, it allows me to post their actual views , not a layman's interpretation what is perceived. C. Loring Brace is the perfect example of this[since europhiles like to quote him as some type of absolute and final authority on Ancient Egyptians], when I emailed him he said people like Somalis and Nubians are Elongated Africans, not intermediate hybrids like Dienekes once claimed. the same with Dr. Jim Wilson who's study Dienekes totally misrepresented. I ask for the actual views and meaning of hat these guys publish, thats something I've rarely, if ever, saw Dienekes do. Thats the difference between me and Dienekes. / You're not very familiar with other science blogs that deal with these issues, are you Charlie? Look for yourself. BTW, about your "elongated Africans", Cavalli-Sforza states in HGHG: "... analysis does not confirm the category of "elongated Africans". They may have maintained their elongated phenotype through natural and sexual selection". You still havent told me what science courses you've taken, and where you went to college. |
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 26, 2006 14:51:56 GMT -5
Ahh yes dienekes the God of anthroplogy and genetics, of whom has *infinite* knowledge pertaining, who are we as petty mortals to question his awesome insights? It not so much that he only "cares" about blacks, it's that it seems hes constantly defending them on this board in a seemingly neverending struggle. Obviously that is an exercise in futility seeing as people here seem to harbor rather changeless biases in regards. What is it with blacks and jews here? The obessesion is just un-healthy. Who are you to presume they don't? The very "pomposity" you claim to oppose seems to come through in your posts. Basically what your really saying is becuase they don't agree with you, or your viewpoint of race/genetics, they just have no "background" or training in anything worth mention. Which, ofcourse is non-sequitor. If not all-knowing one, prove it, or shut up. "Scientists" do not have *agendas*, they are interested only in the truth, if not they are not "scientists" but something else entirely. Good day. / Another defender of negritude opines, this one from the far left side of the bell curve. And look at what you're defending. You have adduced nothing to support your phony onesided claims about Dienekes and do you know what "Negritude" is? Look at the Medocentrist obsession here[Pontikos even called East Africans Caucasoids] where are *YOU* to speak out against it? On egyptsearch I even clashed with some memebers on some issues. |
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Post by mhagneto on Jan 26, 2006 14:52:05 GMT -5
I am from Egyptsearch I post under KING. I have to say that I find dodona harder to understand then Egyptsearch. On dodona you can get banned for saying things that are against what Dienekes thinks and to tell you the truth most of what Dienekes says about africa is not right. The only reason I post on Dodona is because I like to see people who know the truth post but sometimes they also get banned. Dodona is a website for southern europeans to prove they are just as white as Northern europeans. If the guys at Egyptsearch are so wrong then why does not people from dodona go and own them the way that Planet Asia owns Dodona. As for E3b it is African underived E3b is found only in Africans and these are africans from southern africa like the Kwhe / And another, even farther left. |
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Post by mhagneto on Jan 26, 2006 14:53:43 GMT -5
/ Another defender of negritude opines, this one from the far left side of the bell curve. On egyptsearch I even clashed with some memebers on some issues. / Good for you. That's evidence that you have a brain. |
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 26, 2006 14:59:19 GMT -5
Which blogs cite him and are they fellow laymen or professionals? Are they citing his views as fact? last time I checked, Dienekes isn't an anthropologists nor is he a geneticist. Being cited by fellow laymen science blogs does not make him a professional or his views correct. By asking the actual geneticists and anthropologists about their studies and what they actually mean, it allows me to post their actual views , not a layman's interpretation what is perceived. C. Loring Brace is the perfect example of this[since europhiles like to quote him as some type of absolute and final authority on Ancient Egyptians], when I emailed him he said people like Somalis and Nubians are Elongated Africans, not intermediate hybrids like Dienekes once claimed. the same with Dr. Jim Wilson who's study Dienekes totally misrepresented. I ask for the actual views and meaning of hat these guys publish, thats something I've rarely, if ever, saw Dienekes do. Thats the difference between me and Dienekes. / You're not very familiar with other science blogs that deal with these issues, are you Charlie? Look for yourself. BTW, about your "elongated Africans", Cavalli-Sforza states in HGHG: "... analysis does not confirm the category of "elongated Africans". They may have maintained their elongated phenotype through natural and sexual selection". You still havent told me what science courses you've taken, and where you went to college. Sforza is not a anthropologist. The fossil record does support the case for elongated Africans in not only East Africa but also even in the Sahara. i have the book so please post the page number and everything along with it. And which science blogs are you talking about? Please post them. I'll tell you which courses I've taken when you produce evidence of Pontikos' credentials. i never claimed to be an anthropologist or genetist. You're the one who made the pompous statement that I know nothing and that Dienekes knows more than me. |
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Post by Planet Asia on Jan 26, 2006 15:00:51 GMT -5
On egyptsearch I even clashed with some memebers on some issues. / Good for you. That's evidence that you have a brain. Since you don't clash with so called Eurocentrists who make frivolous claims I can say you don't have a brain. |
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Post by mhagneto on Jan 26, 2006 15:19:36 GMT -5
/ You're not very familiar with other science blogs that deal with these issues, are you Charlie? Look for yourself. BTW, about your "elongated Africans", Cavalli-Sforza states in HGHG: "... analysis does not confirm the category of "elongated Africans". They may have maintained their elongated phenotype through natural and sexual selection". You still havent told me what science courses you've taken, and where you went to college. Sforza is not a anthropologist. The fossil record does support the case for elongated Africans in not only East Africa but also even in the Sahara. i have the book so please post the page number and everything along with it. And which science blogs are you talking about? Please post them. I'll tell you which courses I've taken when you produce evidence of Pontikos' credentials. i never claimed to be an anthropologist or genetist. You're the one who made the pompous statement that I know nothing and that Dienekes knows more than me. / For God's sake, Bass, just do a google search "Dienekes" and you'll see the sites he's mentioned on. Gene Expression is a good place to start or yahoo groups DNA anthro. I'm not your gofer. Do the search yourself. There are plenty more. Yes, Dienekes does know more than you. Immeasurably more. That's not pomposity, that's my judgment. |
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Post by mhagneto on Jan 26, 2006 15:21:03 GMT -5
/ Good for you. That's evidence that you have a brain. Since you don't clash with so called Eurocentrists who make frivolous claims I can say you don't have a brain. / Ouch! Coming from you, Charlie, that really hurts! |
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Post by king3 on Jan 26, 2006 15:26:22 GMT -5
How do you know that I am even Black Mahgneto. Just because I don't try to hide the fact that E3b is African does not mean I have to be Black. As for egyptsearch it is a much better run Forum then Dodona at least they don't ban you for not agreeing with Dienekes. If you anybody from dodona thinks what they say over at ES is wrong then why do the posters on ES own those who don't agree with them. Usually people do what Mahgneto does and rant on about people being Afrocentric when they have no arguements. I challenge anybody from dodona to go over to egyptsearch and put down what you think is right. The problem is that most people from dodona would get owned. From what I have seen from this forum Planet Asia owns Dodona so I don't think that people from dodona would be able to hang with the people at Egyptsearch.
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Post by mhagneto on Jan 26, 2006 15:35:34 GMT -5
How do you know that I am even Black Mahgneto. Just because I don't try to hide the fact that E3b is African does not mean I have to be Black. As for egyptsearch it is a much better run Forum then Dodona at least they don't ban you for not agreeing with Dienekes. If you anybody from dodona thinks what they say over at ES is wrong then why do the posters on ES own those who don't agree with them. Usually people do what Mahgneto does and rant on about people being Afrocentric when they have no arguements. I challenge anybody from dodona to go over to egyptsearch and put down what you think is right. The problem is that most people from dodona would get owned. From what I have seen from this forum Planet Asia owns Dodona so I don't think that people from dodona would be able to hang with the people at Egyptsearch. / Wanna bet a million bucks you're not black? Gee, you must wonder how I know?! |
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Post by king3 on Jan 26, 2006 15:54:42 GMT -5
Just because I agree with the FACTS does not mean I am Black. Sorry Mhagneto but not everyone goes to great lengths to try to hide what E3b is. Like I said before if your so sure of yourself why don't you go over to Egyptsearch. As for Dienkes knowing more than Planet Asia if this is the case why does Dienkes always gets owned by Planet Asia. I have read most of the threads that they argue in and Planet Asia always seems to get the last word. This is not my judgement this is a Fact. This does not change the fact that E3b is African and underived E3b is found only in Africans.
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