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Post by asdf on Jan 24, 2006 23:26:20 GMT -5
I never got further than: white girl with slight Turk-brow and peculiar nose.
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Post by walker on Jan 25, 2006 16:33:30 GMT -5
She's southern portuguese, which means she can have a jewish, mourish, berber, negroid, iberian (and about 20 other races) ancestry.
Thanks a lot to everyone who posted.
Also, her name is of hebraic origin ( and somewhat uncommon in portugal ) which may or may not mean something.
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Post by asdf on Jan 25, 2006 16:37:19 GMT -5
Ah, you've got to be freaking kidding me. I was going to say that nose was Portuguese - based on 2 of the few Portuguese people I know.
Crap.
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Post by vingul on Jan 25, 2006 22:32:18 GMT -5
I feel small now
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Post by Atreyu on Jan 26, 2006 6:48:00 GMT -5
I'm afraid I don't have any other pictures. Also, when I wrote " Guess " I meant " Please classify ... " Neither me or her know her ethnic ancestry. She looks berber, or semite to me ... I'll tell you her nationality later. So you dont know if she is mixed?I can Post Greek Italian, Spanish and many other European ethnicities girls who look just like that even British girls. She looks Southern European/mediterranean caucasoid. Irish Of course she had lighter skin.
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Post by Atreyu on Jan 26, 2006 6:50:59 GMT -5
She's southern portuguese, which means she can have a jewish, mourish, berber, negroid, iberian (and about 20 other races) ancestry. Thanks a lot to everyone who posted. Also, her name is of hebraic origin ( and somewhat uncommon in portugal ) which may or may not mean something. Moorish Berber and Iberian are the same. Negroid? Jewish? Why not claim Greek Heritage or Tartesian heritage?
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Post by walker on Jan 26, 2006 8:28:57 GMT -5
I think about 10% of the population of Lisbon ( where she's from ) was negroid in the XVII century and they were absorbed that's why I mentioned it. Also, the jewish population in Portugal was very large and absorbed into portuguese culture ( they were forced to take portuguese last names, and picked names of trees). That, and the mourish invaders, that were in some regions of portugal for as long as 800 years are the admixtures I find the most relevant.
I also mentioned about 20 other ethnicities ( d.Sancho, the populator, used people of flemish descent to populate parts of portugal, and of course, the south was first colonized by phoenicians and carthagenians, i think ).
I see it in this simplified way: there were 3 big waves of "foreign" blood mixing in portugal in the last 2000 years: mourish, due to their long domain of the Iberian peninsula, negroid, due to the "mixegenage culture of colonization" and slavery , and jewish, due to their forced integration.
Maybe I'm not familiar with the terminology used here. I used mixed in the sense that mostly everyone in Portugal (and maybe anywhere else in europe besides Iceland) is of mixed descent.
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Post by ndrthl on Jan 26, 2006 8:46:29 GMT -5
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Post by Atreyu on Jan 26, 2006 8:49:30 GMT -5
I think about 10% of the population of Lisbon ( where she's from ) was negroid in the XVII century and they were absorbed that's why I mentioned it. Also, the jewish population in Portugal was very large and absorbed into portuguese culture ( they were forced to take portuguese last names, and picked names of trees). That, and the mourish invaders, that were in some regions of portugal for as long as 800 years are the admixtures I find the most relevant. I also mentioned about 20 other ethnicities ( d.Sancho, the populator, used people of flemish descent to populate parts of portugal, and of course, the south was first colonized by phoenicians and carthagenians, i think ). I see it in this simplified way: there were 3 big waves of "foreign" blood mixing in portugal in the last 2000 years: mourish, due to their long domain of the Iberian peninsula, negroid, due to the "mixegenage culture of colonization" and slavery , and jewish, due to their forced integration. Maybe I'm not familiar with the terminology used here. I used mixed in the sense that mostly everyone in Portugal (and maybe anywhere else in europe besides Iceland) is of mixed descent. negilible amounts.as i said before i can post any southern european girl who looks like her.
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Post by Atreyu on Jan 26, 2006 8:55:35 GMT -5
The Flemish immigrants have contributed nothing racially. Poeple still talk about Visigothic ancestry in Iberia.Have they yet not learned www.geocities.com/refuting_kemp
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Post by ndrthl on Jan 26, 2006 9:23:00 GMT -5
The Flemish immigrants have contributed nothing racially. Poeple still talk about Visigothic ancestry in Iberia.Have they yet not learned www.geocities.com/refuting_kempI have not said anything about Flemish contribution to the Portuguese racial background. It is just a historical fact that other European folks (like the Flemish and Burgundians) were settled as the Portuguese defeated the Moors and expanded southwards.
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Post by Atreyu on Jan 26, 2006 9:32:51 GMT -5
The Flemish immigrants have contributed nothing racially. Poeple still talk about Visigothic ancestry in Iberia.Have they yet not learned www.geocities.com/refuting_kempI have not said anything about Flemish contribution to the Portuguese racial background. It is just a historical fact that other European folks (like the Flemish and Burgundians) were settled as the Portuguese defeated the Moors and expanded southwards. You made no comment so i assumed that was what you where talking about contributation. only because this "walker" and i where talking about contribution.
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Post by ndrthl on Jan 26, 2006 9:42:54 GMT -5
Sancho I of Portugal was known as " the Populator": "Sancho I dedicated much of his reign to political and administrative organization of the new kingdom. He accumulated a national treasure, supported new industries and the middle class of merchants. Moreover, he created several new towns and villages and took great care in populating remote areas in the northern Christian regions of Portugal, notably with Flemings and Burgundians – hence the nickname the Populator. The king was also known for his love of knowledge and literature. Sancho I wrote several books of poems and used the royal treasure to send Portuguese boys to study in European Universities". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sancho_I_of_Portugal
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Post by fm0210 on Jan 26, 2006 10:04:27 GMT -5
>Moorish Berber and Iberian are the same. >She's southern portuguese, which means she can have a jewish, mourish, berber, negroid, >iberian (and about 20 other races) ancestry. No comments.
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Post by Drooperdoo on Jan 26, 2006 10:16:16 GMT -5
What's the gene-map supposed to establish? --The fact that the Portuguese are overhwhelmingly R1b?
If you wanted to prove racial impurity, it kind of hurts your case when every other section of Europe has just as many pie-wedges. (You only get "purer" in the Basque country, and higher R1b rates in Northern Spain, Ireland, Wales, etc.)
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