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Post by Buddyryvall on Feb 14, 2005 2:22:27 GMT -5
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Post by asdf on Feb 14, 2005 2:29:01 GMT -5
I've never thought that, but his nose (area) . . . doesn't kinda look mongoloid/amerind?
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Post by mike2 on Feb 14, 2005 2:29:08 GMT -5
His hawk nose is a very interesting feature and Amerindians are know for their hawk noses.
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Post by nymos on Feb 14, 2005 2:43:20 GMT -5
Jewish? I don't see it. That third pic is freaky. Scared the crap out of me.
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Post by Faelcind on Feb 14, 2005 3:02:09 GMT -5
GWB looks like typical german american, the convex nose is quite common in the german americans I know as is the wide mouth thin lipped mouth and and promient mid face that GWB has. He has significant portion of Old american british in his ancestry as well and think it more obvious when he was young.
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Post by joeb1 on Feb 14, 2005 5:43:05 GMT -5
thats not a jewish nose, but his nose has been distorted from decades of cocaine abuse
and thats not just a joke, its been proven that heavy cocaine abusers have distorted nasal indexes
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Post by Drooperdoo on Feb 14, 2005 10:56:05 GMT -5
You guys crack me up! George Bush--Jewish??? Bwa-ha-ha-ha. The Bush family's genealogy has been so exhaustively studied that he's a very poor candidate for being a "crypto-Jew". We know every aspect of this man's past and nope: No Jewish blood. He's almost entirely Anglo-Saxon, with a few genealogical digressions into Ireland. Interestingly, the Bush family DOES have very faint Amerindic blood. They're distantly related to Pokahontas. That was back in the 1600s, though. So I doubt if his "aquiline" nose is due to that. [My theory is--just as with John Lennon's hooked nose--Bush gets it from some Irish ancestor on his mother's side. Bush Sr. has a patrician nose--and sadly, the son resembles his father in only the loose way that a misspelling resembles the word it's trying to convey.]
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Post by buddyrydell on Feb 14, 2005 13:32:52 GMT -5
George W. Bush Jewish? Now we're really stretching things here. The Bush family is of old WASP stock, with probably some German thrown in, and I suppose some Amerindian. As for Bush's mother's family, they're probably of similar heritage. There could be Irish on either side as well I suppose.
Bush's appearance is closer to that of his mother's imo. The senior Bush has more of a British look to me. GWB looks more like a German-Irish mix.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Feb 14, 2005 13:47:33 GMT -5
Theirs nothing typical or at all german looking about Bush!
He's mixed with Amerindian,Irish, and English,with royalty in him as most American Nobilty...So its very possible he has Jewish genes.Much like Colin Powell is made up of WASP genes going back to the british royal family aswel.
Dont foget that the European Royal Families are highly Mixed.
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Post by Drooperdoo on Feb 14, 2005 13:59:07 GMT -5
Crimson, You said that, since George Bush is descended from "American nobiliy," it's very possible he has "Jewish blood" in him? How soon we forget! As recently as the mid-Twentieth Century, Jews were barred from "white" country clubs, excluded from Harvard, and locked out of the patrician Anglo-Saxon society that gave birth to George W. Bush. So, no, Jews were not part of the "upper crust" of America. They first arrived in the late 19th Century as poverty-stricken outcastes--entering America as "rag-men," usurers, tailors and--sadly--criminals. [Remember Meyer Lansky and his organization of the modern crime syndicate. Or Arnold Rothstein's fixing of the 1919 World-series. Jewish gangsters actually outnumbered Italian gangsters!] So, no, when Jews arrived in America in the late 1800s they were exactly the type of "disagreeable element" that Bush's pasty, imbred people looked down upon. [Think Mr. Burns from "The Simpsons".] As for Bush's genealogy, it's one of the most-thoroughly researched in the world: So, no, no Jews. Not even close. Remember: England expelled the Jews in the Middle Ages. They were only allowed to return centuries later after Oliver Cromwell. So Bush's gene pool is so far removed from an environment that would have even made it possible. Sorry, but history is evil, unfair--people didn't mix like in the modern jet-age, with a million different ethnicities and nationalities all in one school. P.S.--Prescott Bush was very friendly with Nazi Germany and in fact made quite a lot of money in investments there. He was even sanctioned for his ties to Germany after it was declared illegal to continue doing business there.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Feb 14, 2005 14:14:30 GMT -5
Hey who do you think helped finace the American Revolution? <<By 1776 and the War of Independence, around 2,000 Jews lived in America, with a significant role in the struggle for independence, including fighting against the British (the first revolutionary to be killed in Georgia was a Jew named Francis Salvador). Jews also played a key role in financing the Revolution, with the most important of the financiers being Haym Salomon. President George Washington remembered the Jewish contribution when the first synagogue opened in Newport, Rhode Island in 1790 in a letter, dated August 17, 1790: "May the children of the stock of Abraham who dwell in the land continue to merit and enjoy the goodwill of the other inhabitants. While everyone shall sit safely under his own vine and fig-tree and there shall be none to make him afraid.">> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_United_StatesSo dont give me that crap about Jews.
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Post by Drooperdoo on Feb 14, 2005 14:23:54 GMT -5
Crimson, Just to show you how much I know on the subject . . . the first Jews in America were Sephardic Jews [who originated in Spain]. They arrived in the American colonies from Brazil. One of the most respected Sephardic-Jewish families was the Solis-Cohen family in Philadelphia [which still lives there]. This original smattering of Jews was tiny. The first massive wave of Jewish immigration didn't happen until the late 19th Century from Eastern Europe--when millions of Jews flooded the US . . . and stirred up old welters of antisemitism. I refer you to www.jewhoo.com if you have any further questions about history--and are still under the delusion that the America of the Past was a jamboree of brotherhood and lack of racism. P.S.--The original colony of Spanish-Jews (who were distinguished doctors and jurists) detested the Eastern-Europeans (who were usually unskilled people, many of whom were even illiterate). The Solis-Cohen family even sued one Eastern-European family that tried to adopt their surname.
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Post by Crimson Guard on Feb 14, 2005 14:43:57 GMT -5
Not here to argue..My point is simply yes its entirely possible that Buch has some Jewish Blood in him.Their where Jews living in American since the the 1600's.
Many jews where in the hightest echlons of the American upper class.This is no secret..so their could have been intermarriages with the Rothchilds or whoever and so on.
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Post by Drooperdoo on Feb 14, 2005 15:01:20 GMT -5
Wow! We're making such progress as a society! I KNOW we are--and I'm not being facetious--because Crimson has no consciousness whatsoever of antisemitism or the historical barriers thrown up against Jews. He thinks that they moved around easily in the "upper classes" of American society in the past. He's obviously unaware of Edith Wharton's "House of Mirth," in which the "upstart" Jewish character named Simon Rosedale [born, Rosenthal] is viewed with contempt by the wealthy Gentiles, or the fact that when the poet Ezra Pound was born, the newspaper announcement was right next to a hotel notice, announcing that they "do not cater to Hebrews". Likewise, he doesn't know that Eleanor Roosevelt's family didn't allow her to get her teeth fixed because "cosmetic surgery" was what "Jews did". Even as late as 1980, the comedy "Caddy Shack" [written and directed by a Jew] tells the story of the mayhem that ensues when a Jew tries to join a WASP country club. I'm glad to see that most modern Gentile-Americans are unaware that there are so many "Jewish country clubs" because white Christians wouldn't admit Jews to their clubs. I think we're making progress as a society--because the young look back over history and assume it was as enlightened (and multi-cultural) as it is today. Kudos!
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Post by dyn on Feb 14, 2005 19:08:36 GMT -5
As recently as the mid-Twentieth Century, Jews were barred from "white" country clubs, excluded from Harvard, and locked out of the patrician Anglo-Saxon society that gave birth to George W. Bush. That is obviously nonsense. The first black graduated from Harvard in 1870, the first Amerindian in 1665. Oh but Jews were excluded until the mid-twentieth century?
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