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Post by Agrippa on Feb 4, 2006 22:38:01 GMT -5
Sorry, Atlantid might be shady, but Nordid is shady? *lol* At least the typical forms (Skandonordid) are so clear, so easy to define and spot...
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Post by Crimson Guard on Feb 4, 2006 22:41:51 GMT -5
How sweet..couldn't careless if you like it or not. Almost half the people posted on this board are Mediterranoids. I just go by what I read and learned from Anthropologists and make my deductions accordingly. Sorry i don't use shady terms like Nordid and Atlantid. Your 'deductions' are wrong most of the time when it comes to Northern Europeans. My deductions arent wrong. Northern Europe is mainly all a mix of Mediterranean,East Baltic,Alpine and Nordic(and varying degree's of the intermediate Mongoloid/ Europoid sub-races as well)...So how am I wrong?
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Post by Agrippa on Feb 4, 2006 22:45:21 GMT -5
Because Nordid is a stabilised racial type no matter how it came up, so there is nothing shady, neither if its about the stabilisation nor about the exact definition. What you said about Northern Europe is just...
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Post by Crimson Guard on Feb 4, 2006 22:45:48 GMT -5
Sorry, Atlantid might be shady, but Nordid is shady? *lol* At least the typical forms (Skandonordid) are so clear, so easy to define and spot... Your Nordid =Nordoid?
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Post by Agrippa on Feb 4, 2006 22:48:49 GMT -5
I say when its Nordoid, if I say Nordid, I mean it that way, but including a basic variation. Typical Nordid in the narrower sense = Skandonordid (Lundman) = Teutonordid (v. Eickstedt et al.) = Hallstatt (Coon) = Nordic (Günther) etc.
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Post by Sym on Feb 4, 2006 23:00:10 GMT -5
Sure, nobody's always right and for sure not me. As I said, Nordid influence is clearly visible to me, no doubt, in fact, what I dont really see, is Dinaroid. You might call him Nordatlantid, which would be Nordid already, or Atlantid, which would be rather intermediate. However, its really though and along those lines. He has something Atlantid-Atlantomediterranid in any case - in my opinion. Hernando Cortes: The majority of Argentinian models seems to be Atlantomediterranid (or Nordid) by the way: www.diegoriosmodelos.com/She has green eyes, Nordid influence, would count her as Atlantid to Nordatlantid either: www.diegoriosmodelos.com/web/ModelsBooks/default.asp?modelo=343The border is just fluent anyway, Atlantomediterranid-Atlantid: www.diegoriosmodelos.com/web/ModelsBooks/default.asp?modelo=323Well, at first you called him predominantly Atlanto-Mediterranean , which is what I really took offense to. He may have non-Nordic influence but it surely isn't in the majority. ps I don't see the sub-racial connection between Mountbatten and that Spaniard. Look at the difference in nose and lip size. Any resemblance is superficial imo (Mountbatten could even be said to resemble American comedian Stephen Colbert, but again it's very superficial and there aren't enough similiarities to lump them in the same group). Nice models
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Post by Crimson Guard on Feb 4, 2006 23:38:54 GMT -5
I say when its Nordoid, if I say Nordid, I mean it that way, but including a basic variation. Typical Nordid in the narrower sense = Skandonordid (Lundman) = Teutonordid (v. Eickstedt et al.) = Hallstatt (Coon) = Nordic (Günther) etc. I still have no clue of what your definition of Nordid(Nordic) is. I think its whatever you want it to be. You once ran around claiming the spreaders of IE languages and Culture where Nordid and said the same thing about the Ancient Greek upper class.So either the term "Nordid" is shady or the people using are. Louis Mountbatten has a better chance of being a Corded Nordic which are Mediterranean-Nordic hybrids anyhow. *This Sym character takes offence cause Agrippa called him Atlanto-Mediterranean earlier ,yet has the pills to go off on me..that's pretty funny!
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Post by Sym on Feb 5, 2006 0:02:13 GMT -5
There's no need to call me a 'character', I don't recall ever making a personal attack on you.
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Post by Educate Me on Feb 5, 2006 0:53:32 GMT -5
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Post by Sym on Feb 5, 2006 0:57:41 GMT -5
Your soccer player looks German.
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Post by Glenlivet on Feb 5, 2006 6:51:31 GMT -5
Very similar indeed. Both would fit well in southern England. doesnt he look like this spanish football player?
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Post by Agrippa on Feb 5, 2006 11:40:13 GMT -5
The Spanish football player is more Nordid though and very progressive too.
Lets put it that way, Nordid in the narrower sense (Skandonordid): High FI=narrow face, rather compressed malars, low NI=narrow nose which is high rooted, has a straight, wavy or slightly convex profile and relatively prominent, chin-jaws usually compressed too though vary and relatively high, prominent-positive chin, low interorbital distance (close set) and relatively deep set eyes, dolicho- to mesocephalic headshape, prominent occiput, marked skull, robust marks (f.e. inion), tall and robust boned but leptomorphic-virile (ranging from juvenile to mature too though, compare with Lundmans racial body types) build with relatively long lower extremities (high limbs), light pigmentation of the skin, eyes and hair, but with eye color being the most important trait. The Western (Skandonordid and Nordatlantid) group is rather low skulled, the Eastern (Eastnordid) often higher but there is overlap too.
In prehistoric times we have the problem of the lack of soft parts and informations if its about pigmentation, so many robust-tall f.e. Atlantomediterranid or even Iranid variants are practically very hard to almost indistinguishable from Nordid variation. So we speak often about robust leptodolichomorphs ~ Nordoid and gracile leptodolichomorphs ~ Mediterranoid.
Compare with the Racial calculator of Dienekes. However, oftentimes we have historical descriptions or rests of hair f.e., which can be very helpful to determine whether we can speak of definitely Nordid variants.
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Post by Platypus on Feb 5, 2006 12:38:53 GMT -5
Spanish footballer Butruageno is pred. Nordic Mountbatten is halfay between prince Phillip and prince Charles so a Progressive Nordic with Atlantid....(hence perfectly British besides being mostly German in ancestry)
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